It just gets better!
FlyforBeans is supposed to be a new lo-cost airline flying from Cardiff throughout Europe. They were due to start well over a year ago, but nothing materialised, but still occasionally pop up in the press saying they are still there and waiting for the right time!
There's currently no long haul from CWL, so there is a market. But not for a startup with an elderly Tristar!

Hey 411A,
Have you got extra-wide doors in your house? If not, with a head like yours, you must live outside.
Why do you throw so many stones? I cannot believe the other operators of L1011s to which you refer were paragons of operational efficiency.

I have been told that an inflated ego is actually more buoyant than a life jacket, so that's at least something.

Gorilla,
Three engines ??:ok:
You have obviously never had to ship a big fan engine to delightful out of the way holiday island to get a twin with an engine out rescued :*

Plus of course much improved dispatch capability :)

BTW some tristars had 4 engines :cool:

Doesn't the RAF (MOD) have Marshalls do most of their maintenance?

No wonder it's expensive!

Jeez, please remind me to not ever, ever, open another thread with the words L1011 in it...

TCF

And, why not?
The one seemingly common demominator amongst operators that had 'problems'?
Brits.

All others?
The 'ole L10 worked OK, and made a handsome profit for their operators.
Delta
ANA
Royal Jordanian
Gulf Air
TWA
Eastern

Many more.
Perhaps it was that there were no Brits involved, to any great extent?

A blessing, it would appear.:}

I think some posters here should get a life. One in particular is what is known as a "stalker". You know who you are.

why all the animosity against 411A?

Leave him alone, while I may not agree with some of his views and ways, I respect his knowledge and expertise, if some of you don´t like what he says then don´t stalk him, he has a lot of patience, but I would hate to see him leave pprune because of some of you and your outright hatred.

Maybe it is just that some of you envy him?.

:=

Sad to say, it's mainly the Brits, who simply could not make a quite good aeroplane conform to many of their outmoted/outdated ideas.
This is maintenance folks, especially.
UK pilots, on the other hand, quite liked the 'ole L1011, and its superb handling qualities.
The RAF is especially challanged, it appears, having these types in 'charge' of their aircraft servicing.
Outsourcing might be the answer...certainly it might tend to improve their dispatch reliability.
UL had, at one time, the highest daily utilisation of all TriStar operators...17 hours, and up.
I never had a tech delay in over five years there.
Zero, nada, none.
Good old fashioned maintenance, properly applied.
It certainly can be done, provided certain folks are kept firmly at arms length...:} and not allowed to muck up the works.:rolleyes:

You know, 411A, under the current regime in the UK, we Brits could claim that you are rather racist. However, rather than stifle your right to free speech, I hope the moderators keep you going.
You must be a very bitter person or a very good wind-up merchant. Nobody could possibly envy you.:ugh:

I couldn't really care, Bus429, but if you examine the facts in a rational and consistant manner, you will find that there are (or were) only two organisations that had significant problems with the type under discussion.
Both of these were in the UK.
It would appear to me that although the type is old, it certainly can be maintained reasonably, if primarily two conditions are met....

Sufficient funding is provided.
Sufficient technical expertise is available.

In regards to the RAF, I rather suspect funding is the issue.
If, on the other hand, technical expertise is the problem, outsourcing is clearly the answer.

One would hope that from a flight operations perspective, the very necessary lessons have been learned regarding how to properly fly the aeroplane, as it really is quite simple...RTFB.

If you're retired 411, your a lucky guy cuz you won't have to sit beside the likes of ASSKAP and listen to his pointless drivel for hours on end:}, or maybe at his 9 to 5 office job he's boring his co workers to tears with his holier than thou baloney:{

So does anyone have an idea who this new set up is?? Or even website link?

Thanks

Yup. I know.

Because I read the whole thread before posting :rolleyes:

?? I did read the post`s ??

Posts #52 and #53.

Search Flyforbeans on here. They're a bit of a running joke.

Flyforbeans have NOTHING to do with this topic, I wondered who is behind the L1011 start up;)

In the absence of any information to the contrary they're as good a guess as any.

I guess you'll tell us that applies to a DC-3 as well.