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Georgeablelovehowindia 24th November 2006 16:27

I get the heebie-geebies when something lends scale to the height I'm at. I would quite cheerfully go up a 10 metre diving-board and dive off outdoors, but try it indoors, when I realised that I was up close to the ceiling of the swimming pool ... :uhoh:

I used to get exactly the same sensation when flying just underneath a high cloudbase with a clear view down to the ground.

batninth 24th November 2006 18:44

Thank you Paper Tiger for explaining the difference. You are right, in my case it is a fear of falling/depth

The comments that the various postings have rekindled memories I'd sooner not had - a hotel in Austin, TX that had the balcony over the inner atrium that scared me everytime I had to walk along it. Also a glass floor in a building that I couldn't walk on, or those suspended walkways in a certain computer company's offices near Heathrow airport (the one used in a Bond film).

I think I'll pop out tomorrow and buy a length of rope & a couple of karabinas (?) so I can keep myself attached to something :)

ABX 24th November 2006 22:43

Falling Dream
 
I don't have any fear of height or falling, but I do get that damn dream where I fall for ages and wake up tense and sweaty.

Rainboe, would never belittle your experiences, but Mt. Kosciusko in Alaska? Google & Wiki bring no results.:suspect:

Have a good friend who suffered terribly from - bathophobia in light of the above - who successfully trained himself to be comfortable at heights, after he was offered his first job, as a TV aerial installer. LOL, poor guy, first couple of months were rough on him.

Cheers,

ABX

Rainboe 24th November 2006 22:51

Woops you're right! Mt. Alyeska it was! 17 years since going to that lovely place! Kosciusko is the Snowy Mountains, Ozland, isn't it?

ABX 24th November 2006 22:56

Hehehe ...
 
Yep, Mt. Kosciusko is less than a C210 hour from your Sydney experience.

And less than an hour in a 210 from where I live, Albury (ABX)

Cheers,

ABX

jayteeto 24th November 2006 23:46

I tried to go up the Eiffel Tower a few years ago, got to the first big platform and found that I couldn't look up at the rest of the tower, it made me feel sick. I like many don't like crossing high bridges etc. In 5500 flying hours, height has never bothered me, ever.

fyrefli 25th November 2006 09:27

I'll echo many of the comments on page one. I'll fly quite happily in a bucket seat, tied by a load of string to a couple of sheets of cloth, 6,000ft above the ground, thermal up some cliff in Snowdonia or the Alps and chat to the people on the cliff but stand me on the edge of that cliff and my reaction will vary somewhere between mild discomfort and near panic.

Since falling out of the sky this March, I have felt more nervous when paragliding close to the ground but that's a relative thing - I've always felt safer the higher I am because you have more time to sort it out; plus there's a realisation, having taken maybe ten mins to thermal to cloudbase, that there's not 6,000ft of nothing between you and the ground but 6,000ft of air.

Cheers,

Rich.

Mudfoot 25th November 2006 12:18

I've got you ALL beat - my palms are sweating just reading this stuff. :ooh:

Get the heebie-jeebies looking up at powerlines or tall construction cranes.

Hate long or tall bridges. Didn't used to bother me... what happened?!?

But put me in business class at the window, ah, that I can do even before cocktail time. Takeoff & landing are fun to watch. I must agree, there's something about being inside and seated that changes one's attitude about altitude, possibly the separation aspect - one is contained.

Cliffs... :eek:

Cheers, y'all. Now must wipe keyboard dry...

Rainboe 25th November 2006 14:57

I'm beginning to get suspicious that it may just be possible that pilots actually may have a higher fear response to heights than the general population. For some inexplicable reason, sitting in something appears to take the fear response away, but then I know I still feel it, for example, on a high balcony. I had a real problem with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C...l_The_Stamford this hotel balcony- being outside up to 73 floors high is freaky. So you can still be 'in' something, yet feel vertigo. So what does the panel think?

Gnd 25th November 2006 16:05

I am non-civil RW and hate heights unless I have my Perspex bubble of courage around me. See through cheese steps kill me!!!

I did once go topple when I flew at 20ft AGL off the edge of a 2000ft drop in the Balkans; waffled back to low-level in total turmoil (wished I wasn’t solo and never did it again!!!!!)

Mudfoot 25th November 2006 16:40


Originally Posted by Rainboe (Post 2985455)
this hotel balcony- being outside up to 73 floors high is freaky. So you can still be 'in' something, yet feel vertigo. So what does the panel think?

Oh, GAWD - now my FEET are flushing!

In downtown Hamburg, there's St. Michaelis Kirche. My wife and a colleague's wife were going up the lift for (what I thought) were Bach recital tickets, but when it opened, there I was, facing Planet Earth from 130 feet, with a short fence and little else. My wife was shocked and our friend totally perplexed at my wish to get the hell out of there, 'cause she had NO idea of my fear of heights (or depths, whichever.) I was as green as copper roofing, and embarassed because school children were running up and down the belltower steps with not a care in the world. Will never forget, and will NEVER go back.

Crouquet fields are nice...

Blues&twos 25th November 2006 17:18

Love flying, in big & small a/c (as pax, not a pilot!), have done bungee jumping, parascending, balloon flights etc. Enjoyed all of it. Don't like very tall ladders (worst thing I saw was Fred Dibnah, steeplejack, leaning backwards two thirds the way up a huge chimney to clamber over a bit of scaffolding), narrow parapets, the thought of walking round on the top of a very tall chimney.

Wouldn't do parachuting unless I had to. Seems to me that I don't mind heights in the slightest if I believe I'm firmly attached to something. Otherwise everything starts to get twitchy. Mrs. B&t really really hates cliff edges where the ground gradually increaases in steepness until you get to the vertical drop. She's always worried she'll start walking on the flattish bit, then won't be able to stop once it gets steeper.....:eek:

Cornish Jack 25th November 2006 17:45

There have been several previous threads on this going back to 2001. Most reflect the views above. My old boss on CFS (H) used to speak of his problems with the air test height climb requirement in the Whirlwind 10 - up to 14,000'. He said that the only way he could force himself to do it was to imagine the biggest set of swept wings attached out of sight. Perhaps that was a slightly special case since we were operating at around 60 kts or so and, at that sort of height, it looks as though you are stationary - quite disconcerting!

Kestrel_909 25th November 2006 18:09

I have a fear of heights (all the other Kestrels flew off without me :{ )

I have no problems flying, I remember though during my first flights in a 172, PA28, Glider etc momentarily thinking what the hell am I doing up here in this big sky in something that is only marginally wider than myself, it's a long way down. Not real fear rendering me useless, just a passing thought.

I was up in a hot air balloon a few years ago, it was a wonderful experience but I was ready to shoot anyone who made a move and rocked the basket even slightly.


If you want to test your nerves, get yourself climbing a tower crane. Climb up to the cab and ontop of the jib, stand at the middle and look up at remaining part of the tower. You'll see the clouds moving and it will scare the sht out of you faster than you can return to terra firma!

I'd be tempted to try parachuting, whether I'd have the courage to actually jump or not I don't know, but sitting here, I say yes at the minute. Bungee jumping no way!

If I found myself in the Petronas Towers, I suspect I'd sooner go down the stairs, outside, across and up the stairs, rather than step foot on that walkway between them.

Don't get me started on glass lifts on the outside of buildings! Whoever came up with them should be shot.

mini 28th November 2006 22:59

I can report similar to above posters - terrified of anything above the ground floor windows on a ladder yet will sit with legs out of a Helo all day quite comfortably. Some very interesting explainations so far.

On an aside, when mini was young and in the military he wanted to try out for a shady unit, decided the "regular" elite was not for him as they did the parachute, abseil thing so he joined the underwater mob.

Nine months of hell was tackled only to find that the final day of selection involved a suprise jump off a bridge (20M) into a lake. It probably only took two seconds to hit the water but it felt like a lifetime. I remember thinking about the irony of it on the way down.

15 odd years on as a civvy I still dive, and I have no problems with depths of 60M +, guess I'm not a bathywhatever?

Old Smokey 29th November 2006 04:20

Add my name to the list. When the next inquisition comes, they can dispense with the hot pokers and testicle crushers, just put me in a cable car, and I'll tell everything:eek:

Thanks to Paper Tiger for identifying my phobia as bathophobia, I'd always admitted to acrophobia, which somehow seemed inconsistant with the things that I love to do in aeroplanes:D

Confronting one's greatest fears is good therapy, in the sense that the original poster is conducting a psychological survey, I'm wondering if the wish to confront our fears head-on plays any role in this. Is this different to those who are drawn to occupations which are attractive to a person with fetishes, e.g. I believe that necrophiliacs are drawn to the funeral industry (with apologies to the majority in that industry who are not necrophiliacs).

Regards, Look forward to the research results,

Old Smokey

Piltdown Man 29th November 2006 09:04

I'm more than happy being in aircraft, with and without engines at any height or attitude. However, the following scare me fartless: Looking over cliffs; down stairwells in blacks of flats; over balconies etc. Abseiling; Climbing up ladders over ten feet or so; being near the edges of the roofs of buildings and lastly, the most surprising one to me, being in (or is it on?) a "primary" glider - ie. a simple frame with a wing and a seat.

However, I've also had to bail out of a glider and that didn't affect me untill the following day.

PM

Crowe 29th November 2006 16:25


Originally Posted by Old Smokey (Post 2992106)
Add my name to the list. When the next inquisition comes, they can dispense with the hot pokers and testicle crushers, just put me in a cable car, and I'll tell everything:eek:

Ah, thank god the cable car thing isn't just me. Can't stand the *******, particularly when they stop for a bit and you just...dangle :eek: :eek: :eek:

604guy 29th November 2006 19:17

Not very comfortable when I get beyond the height of the roof of my house......I guess that is about as far as I would care to fall. Been flying 36 years and never an issue in the airplane. Doesn't even enter the brain it seems. Thought for a long time that it was perhaps a question of "being in control" but suddenly dawned on me one day that it isn't an issue when riding in the back either. Moved on to a theory of being in an "enclosed" vessel but that doesn't work out either as I can go up in an open cockpit and the willies don't raise their head but can have that feeling standing against the window of a tall building.....so not sure what is at play.

unstable load 9th December 2006 19:55

My money's with mini.

I do the civil helicopter thing as winch operator/cargo sling crew and once or twice as the dope on the rope:eek: . Getting me out the door on that suddenly very thin cable was in hindsight quite funny but at the time anything but. :mad: :mad:
I can sit with my feet out the door with no problems as I am tied to the aircraft, but a 4 step ladder is eneough to give me a cold sweat. As for skyscrapers etc......forget it!:yuk:


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