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pulse1 22nd May 2003 22:08

Tero,

I think that, as someone has already said, the key word here is "chance".

I have no idea of the statistics but I imagine that the chance of an experienced ATPL breaking the aircraft on landing is something like 1 in 10,000. (Forgive me if I under estimate the competence of airline pilots. Whatever the odds are I am happy to accept them every time I fly without worry)

The chance of the F/O breaking it might be 1 in 8,000.

The odds must shorten dramatically once you get to pilots with no experience on big fast jets.

I safely landed a 777 3 axis sim 5 times out of 5 but I would put the odds of me breaking the real thing as something like 1 in 3. With your extensive sim experience you might extend those odds to 1 in 10, not odds I would want to take unless I had to.

flyingdream 22nd May 2003 23:10

I also have a question.

I am 20 years old, have been flying since age 16 and am now lucky enough to fly B737-800. I have also spent a lot of late-night hours on FS98-2000-2002. Even during these days I try to fly FS.

And I must say that even after 500h+ FS wich approx 100h were on DF737-400 I didnt have a chance to land the real thing based on the knowledge gained from FS.

Thoug sometimes FS is more fun than the real simulator. (you are your own instructor, and do not fail important stuff all the time)

So my question is: Is there any good airfiles nowadays for fs2002.
I have some freeware aircrafts but some fly like a bag of peanuts.

From the good old days of fs98 I remember that I downloaded a lot of planes from flightsim.com and they flew quite good.

From where do you get all your models?


/FD

teropa 22nd May 2003 23:56

Pulse,

A very good point! With amateurs it's just a matter of time when the accident would eventually happen, without the required training and so on and so on...

But to use the word "chance" in another meaning... There's still a chance that it could go ok :). Only kidding here, and point taken. :)

Flying dream,

Check out Pilot in Command 767 by Eric Ernst (an active AAL 767 pilot) and guys. It is THE software I use. It has nearly perfect airfile, and I mean it. After all, even the full motion simulators are about correct handling characters coupled with a lot of physical gizmos and the illusion of flight.

If you want to know more about it, email me at: [email protected]. Also, earlier in this thread (posted last year) is a link to avsim for a full review on PIC767. Also, there's one review out by another active 757 pilot. It can be found at: www.frugalsworld.com



rgds
Tero


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