EK449 departs AKL with INOP NAV lights
Good morning, Firstly, i was unsure whether which thread to place this question in. Apologies in advance. Now, EK449 departed AKL on the 13th back to DXB on A380 with 467PAX onboard with INOP NAV lights. At first, it seemed like it wasnt a big deal, but considering that the AC will operate the entire way back to DXB under moon light, it seemed more relavant than it seemed at first - as it indicates starboard and port side for surrounding traffic. So, who is ultimately authorised to certify the ACs airworthyness with INOP NAV lights and do oncoming traffic need to be informed as such? ARNspoty |
If it is in the MEL then it is the Captains decision.
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Night operation without wingtip navigation lights is NOT Permitted under the Minimum Equipment List.
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Wouldnt make a mountain out of a mole hill, yes NAV lights are required but it also has beacon/anti collision. Plus no one in their right mind is going to make an avoidance manoeuvre based off NAV lights, TCAS is your friend
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The mole-hill of legality? :\ It would make for an interestion interview question, Kobayashi Maru style:
Last flight of the day, at an outstation past the MX team's business hours. Green NAV is found inop during the walk-around. It is controlled airspace class D/C all the way home, night VMC. The operation is limited by crew's FDP. How do you proceed? |
Originally Posted by RHINO
(Post 10388688)
If it is in the MEL then it is the Captains decision.
The Captain can jump up and down all he/she likes but if the engineer/mechanic refuses to sign it off you're going nowhere unless a written dispensation arrives from your company quality department. Or you get it fixed. |
How do you know they were inop vs being inadvertently switched off?
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Must've failed airborne your honour .
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Could have failed after the first movement under own power.
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So, who is ultimately authorised to certify the ACs airworthyness with INOP NAV lights and do oncoming traffic need to be informed as such? |
Originally Posted by TangoAlphad
(Post 10389714)
I've had the question in interview and of course in the interview you always go with the legal option in accordance with the MEL...
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