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atakacs 18th Sep 2017 16:48

BOG-MIA A319 non ETOPS routing
 
A picture is certainly worth a lot of words:
https://i.imgur.com/a8Ze2hh.jpg
Quick questions that come to mind
  • what kind of technical issue would void the ETOPS qualification yet allow safe line service ?
  • 5:13 for a 319... I guess pretty much on the edge of the autonomy ?
  • Are passengers allowed to "opt out" in such circumstances ?

Let me emphasize that I am not criticizing anyone - just asking some questions
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MarkerInbound 18th Sep 2017 22:16

Not a Bus person and it's been 22 years since I've flown a two engine plane - The APU is a big one. Engine driven generators, air conditioning packs, engine fire loops, the list goes on and on.

galaxy flyer 18th Sep 2017 22:20

I don't think the Gulf is an ETOPS routing. What day was thus flown; there was a hurricane in the western Gulf a week or so ago. Of bourse, you can "opt out" but you won't get your money back or waived rebooking fee.

wiggy 19th Sep 2017 08:15

At a quick glance without measuring distances if you needed to go non ETOPS for whatever reason between those two airports I'd have thought the likes of San Jose and Cancun could have been used as alternates along the way and would have allowed despatch with the 60 min rule on a more direct routing..but their weather would need to be forecast as being suitable.

I wonder if GF has it -was there serious weather issue in the region.

flyboyike 21st Sep 2017 13:30


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 9896201)
I don't think the Gulf is an ETOPS routing...

Indeed it isn't. We fly that route FLL-BOG daily. I agree, must have had something to do with Katya.

dash6 26th Sep 2017 09:37

A number of American operators remove maritime safety equipment to save weight,as they mainly operate over the continent.(what chance of landing in a river?) These aircraft are restricted in the distance they can fly from land.Can't recall the numbers,but might well result in that routing?


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