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trigger21 29th Aug 2012 13:00

EASA Licencing
 
Guys...I'm so confused with all this EASA stuff....

As a commercial pilot, am I right in assuming that my JAR ATPL automatically becomes a EASA ATPL from 17th September? Therefore I do nothing??

Also with regard to validity...Is it valid indefinitely, unlike the 5 year JAR Licence?

Type ratings...I heard that it is going to be similar to the FAA in that type ratings stay on your licence forever but i was then told that they are only valid for 3 years. Again, completely confused - if anyone can understand it more than me and shed some light it would be much appreciated!

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

BillieBob 29th Aug 2012 19:49

Alternatively,

As a commercial pilot, am I right in assuming that my JAR ATPL automatically becomes a EASA ATPL from 17th September? Therefore I do nothing??
Yes, it is 'deemed to be' an EASA ATPL.

Is it valid indefinitely, unlike the 5 year JAR Licence?
No, it is valid until the expiry date that is entered in the licence (5 years after it was issued). When the JAA licence expires, it will be replaced with a real EASA licence that is valid indefinitely.

Type ratings...I heard that it is going to be similar to the FAA in that type ratings stay on your licence forever but i was then told that they are only valid for 3 years.
An EASA type rating is valid for one year, as is a MEP class rating. A SEP class rating is valid for 3 years.

trigger21 2nd Sep 2012 13:29

Thanks Billiebob

That makes it a little more clear. Being abroad in ME I assume it would mean that in order to keep my type rating on EASA licence I would need to do a OPC once a year? If I didn't do that would it be completely wiped off my licence?

Thanks in advance

Ibis 2nd Sep 2012 16:31

not an OPC :=, but an LPC :ok:
and you better make sure, you take an approved examiner!!

Burpbot 2nd Sep 2012 18:48

Do you guys know exactly which forms are needed to renew a JAA ATPL, as of now? I presume ATPL renewal FRTL Renewal and the obligatory payment form?

FliegerTiger 3rd Sep 2012 05:43

SRG1102 and SRG1187 are the 2 forms you will need.

74247 4th Sep 2012 20:56

Also seeking clarification........
 
I currently hold a JAA ATPL with a L382 G (C130) rating, all due to expire July 2012. I am in the USA on a military C130 exchange until July 2014 and the type I am currently flying is not on the civil register (MC130H).
After September 17 2012 can I apply to convert my JAA ATPL to an non expiring EASA Part FCL? I will still have 10 months of rating validity remaining (of 5 years).
My last Class 1 Medical was in 2008 however since then I have maintained RAF periodic medical examinations annually and USAF flight physicals (1042) for the last 2 years.
So can I apply for the EASA license? If so how? Will I require another Class 1 medical? If so does anyone know if this can be achieved by physicians in the south east USA?
Thanks 74247.

Dan Winterland 5th Sep 2012 03:05

Quote: "That makes it a little more clear. Being abroad in ME I assume it would mean that in order to keep my type rating on EASA licence I would need to do a OPC once a year? If I didn't do that would it be completely wiped off my licence?"

You won't have to do an EASA LPC. The provisions of the EASA FCL do allow you licence to have a foreign rating with the restriction that it is valid for that country's registered aircraft only. There is nothing in the new CAP 809 as to how this is going to be implemented so I have written to the CAA to find out what they are doing about it. I have not had an answer yet.

If they get difficult about it, I have already contacted the Irish AA and they have no problems with it. You have the choice as to which authority issues your licence. The defining criteria is where your medical record are kept.

Speaking of which, you must have a current Class One medical on the 17th Sep to effect the changeover.

Civil Pilot 5th Sep 2012 09:38

ATPL
 
You are rght ,from 17 September JAR becaMes automatically to JAA/EASA.And thast dont confused,In accordance JAA/EASA requierements ATPL(A) Licence issued will be valid for teh period of 5 years.Witin this period it may ba re-newed: 1.After initial issue or Rating renewal 2.When Linece paragram xii is completed and no further space remains 3. Due to Admistrative Reason.


And what about Rating...If you mean Type rating,Its valid fore the period of 1 year just after date of Issue.There 2 Requierements
1.ANNEX 6 requierements..There 2 profiency check are required witihin 12 month period seperated not more that 4 month.
2.JAR FCL Requierements; There is 1 check is requiered witihin 12 month just befaore expiry date of Rating

I hope you will be enjoyed from my answer:D

74247 5th Sep 2012 14:36

The C130 rating was conducted in the UK, on a UK C130 so I have no concerns regarding the nationality of my rating. If I will need a current class 1 medical on 17 Sep does anyone know anywhere you can get a CAA class 1 in North West Florida? Plenty of JAA registered physicians but not sure about CAA?

nick14 5th Sep 2012 19:37

Billiebob,

I may have misunderstood but, SEP is valid for 3 years? I thought it was 2.

Cheers

bingofuel 5th Sep 2012 19:53

I didn't think there were any UK civil registered C130's due to a problem with the fire suppression system ? Can anyone enlighten me?

74247 8th Sep 2012 03:58

Not UK civil registered C130s, but rather the C130 exists as a type on the civil register. I flew my rating on a RAF 130, if this makes sense.

crowndove 6th Nov 2012 03:16

Now that we passed September, does anybody already physically hold and EASA license.
Is it a new format or is it just a title change on page 1 of the license?
Are we replacing the big green book with a FAA equivalent credit card format?

Manual Reversion 6th Nov 2012 05:10

The big green book has become a blue book and the licence is a single sheet of paper like a uk medical form. The CAA are taking about 40 days, rather than the advertised 25 days to issue a licence.

mcdhu 16th Nov 2012 13:25

It's currently much more than 40 days turnaround time. I submitted all the paperwork at the LGW desk on the 28th September - and still nothing 8 weeks later. Do the 'day return' if you can.
mcdhu

redsnail 16th Nov 2012 15:52

It took about 28 working days to get my "little blue book". Submitted by mail on the 19th September.

tume 16th Nov 2012 18:06

Well now I am confused.

You mentioned that after 17th September UK issued JAR-FCL license automatically comes an EASA Part-FCL license. I take it you ment also no fees would apply. How come then in Scheme of Charges there are charges listed such as:

"Replacement of a JAR Pilot Licence with an EASA Pilot Licence as from 1 July
2012" (Professional Pilot’s Licence 139£).


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