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romeowiz 25th Jan 2002 16:04

2 days of RVSM now - anybody hurt?
 
How does it feel pushing tin into strange Flight Levels and how does it feel flying at 300 320 340 and so on? Any negative experiences?. .We get along quite well with it - looking strange at first sight but we become aquainted very fast.

Thunderbug 26th Jan 2002 01:32

Not new to many folks who have had experiance of it over the UK and on the North Atlantic tracks for some time now.

It gives you more chance of getting the level you want and is good for getting close-up pics of other aircraft....!

:)

Human Factor 26th Jan 2002 01:44

Came back from Spain at FL360. Very odd. Especially working out which levels go in which directions!!

Mind you, I have a single figure IQ.

wysiwyg 26th Jan 2002 02:00

Came back from Tenerife today at FL340 which allowed us to get right into the jetstream and pick up a tailwind which peaked at 132 knots. Thumbs up to RVSM.

wizzy

Georgeablelovehowindia 26th Jan 2002 03:22

...until you get bounced around in turbulence with someone directly above/below and the TCAS starts shouting...

whats_it_doing_now? 26th Jan 2002 16:10

I find that RVSM is fine, but a little nervy in turbulence!. .I don't understand why they introduced it at alternate levels though. It would have been a better idea, in my point of view, to introduce the levels in pairs, eg. f350 and f360 westbound, f370 and f380 eastbound and so on. This way transition between rvsm and non rvsm would be much smoother, as less level changes would be required, and the old semi-circular rules would still work, making life easier for airmen and controllers alike in knowing if they were at the correct level. It seems silly to me that f350, an old westbound level is now an eastbound level. Any comments...? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

BRUpax 27th Jan 2002 15:07

On the contrary it couldn't be easier than it is now. All odd FLs are eastbound and all even FLs are westbound. Your reasoning for the paired levels has merit but it would also be very confusing and thus possibly compromise safety.

HOMER SIMPSONS LOVECHILD 27th Jan 2002 15:31

As one who mostly flew North/Southish I never could grasp the "odds and evens" thing anyway.In my book 31,33,35,37,39 and 41 were ALL odd numbers.The change over points seemed entirely arbitrary.

320DRIVER 29th Jan 2002 21:29

Hi all, have been going through JAR-OPS 1 and JAA TGL 6 and other RVSM documentation to see if there is a "specific" requirement for the RVSM contingency R/T phraesology to be included in the Operators' Ops Manual but can't find a "black-on-white" reference. Can anyone help?

Thanks.


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