epaulettes - just wondering!
I know that first officer is 3, captian 4 stripes... but are there 1 and two stripes.... e.g does a PPl quilify for a stripe!!! thanks
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Yes you can wear one stripe as long as its pink and covered in glitter
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Don't know about PPL's...however, I do recall sitting on ground at DXB years ago in a B707 freighter, with a flight delay (late cargo) and the First Officer, now getting rather hot in the mid-summer heat, wanting to strip down to his underwear.
He did so,whereupon, I took a photo. I signed on the back...best landing I've ever seen, and presented it to him some two weeks later. Epuletts. Not needed for folks that truly know how to fly...and young F/O Tay was the best of the best. He could roll the 'ole B707 on every time. A superb pilot...speaks volumes of the SQ training, at the time. |
AFAIK...
1 Stripe = Cadet 2 Stripes = FO 3 Stripes = Senior FO 4 Stripes = Captain |
Don't beat about the bush with one, two, or three.
Show them you mean business, wear 5 stripes with pride.:cool::cool: |
Flight International once had a cover story about women's progress in flying the big stuff. Cover picture was of world's first 747 skipper of that gender.
The article headline was Four Bars and Female. |
AFAIK...
1 Stripe = Cadet Otherwise correct.:ok: |
The meaning of 1 and 2 stripes is quite variable depending on the airline. Hell - in some of the asian outfits, even the stewards get a stripe!
At Qantas 1 stripe = second officer under training, 2 stripes = second officer (cruise pilot). |
Well I'm a First Officer and I wear 2, but women tend to like any really!!:E
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Its all up the spout apart from 4 bars means Captain.
The ones that are completely company issue and depends on the bosses view on the bars. One company I worked for issued 3 bars to the FO's purely becuse BA only gives thier's 2 mucky silver things. He thought 3 gold made the uniform look better than there's. All nonsense in the grand scale of things |
My Airline:
4: Captain 3: First Officer. 2: Junior First Officer 1: Second Officer We don't do augmented crew flights, so the SOs and JFOs are 'full' pilots in their own right. It's more a pay / administration / seniority thing. Cathay pacific have 2 1/2 bard for FOs who are not cruise command qualified. Sounds daft, but it's to show that there is someone who can take over during the commander's rest period after an aircraft had to divert after it transpired that no FO could take over once they were airborne. A management pilot in one airline I worked for seriously suggested that managers should wear 5 bars. He didn't take much banter for that! :rolleyes: |
We wear these:
http://www.hogspear.com/images/epaulettes.jpg And these: http://www.costumeuniverse.com/prods..._MBB156_tn.jpg Cool huh? |
Kenny Everit FTW!
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Penny 89 are you for real ? :ugh:
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Penny 89:
You can have gold braid up to your armpit if you wish! :} |
Stripes for Engineers
At Oz at the big 'roo, so you know what level of engineer is on your aircraft;
just purple stripes = AME 1 gold stripe = LAME:ok: 2 gold stripes = Senior LAME (multi-licenced & experienced):ok: 3 gold stripes = Maintenance Supervisor = probable problems:uhoh: 4 gold stripes = Duty Maintenance Manager = definite problems:uhoh: no stripes = laundry stuff up or alternative work force person:suspect: 1st post be gentle |
Our Captains wear four stripes, and First Officers and Flight Engineers wear three. We don't have second officers, though a few retired captains working in the FE seat refer to themselves that way anyway.
Our mechanics wear two gold bars and a red bar, on a standard flight crew uniform. When we're enroute, the shirts come off and go on a hangar, and for me it's usually a tee shirt. Then back into the clown suit when we arrive at the destination. I've seen a few guys who are proud enough of their epaulettes that they buy a second set to wear on their leather uniform jacket. Most of us agree that's a ridiculous thing...but to each his own, I suppose. Most of us don't wear the company issued wings, either. Just a little too much glitz. |
on commercial flights [part 91] in FAR 23 small planes I wear a white 'pilot' shirt--open -- with Three epaulets and little silver wings--and shorts or jeans and sneakers--just for pychological reassurance--they feel less jittery especially if the O2 masks have to/should be out [yes, I brief them on the ground about O2 and all other safety issues:suspect:]
in case you're wondering why part 91 ops--well-I jus' like being a pilot...period:) Not an ego thing just don't like to scare the ground people--- PA |
RE: PPL--yes, if you want wear five---cuz to no eres marinero---tu eres CapitAn, CapitAn,CapitAn,---;)
Some PPls are true to life aviators--I don't discount them either PA:) |
In my outfit, F/O = 3 stripes, Captain = 4 stripes. Period. We don't have Second Officers, Junior F/Os or Senior F/Os or any of that rubbish! We are either F/Os or Captains. Then again, as freight dogs :ok: we're not into the class society! :D
Cheers :cool: |
Loadmasters & Flight Mechs usually wear 2 stripes.
I knew a ground ops guy in DXB who was runnin around the place wearing 4 stripes; couldn't help asking the pratt wtf he was up to. Well, he was working ground dispatch (stapling flight plan together, calling crew out etc...) and acting as loadmaster (actually added a fuel figure to a transit loadsheet) so he was working two jobs @ two stripes each. He was serious about it too. :ugh: |
Wearing stripes on jackets and rain coats is gay!
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PPLs don't wear uniform, so stripes don't apply. Those (thankfully few) who do affect to wear them make themselves look delusional sad prats.
You'd ridicule a yachtsman who sported gold rings on his sleeve, wouldn't you? A professional pilot who wears them on his raincoat looks a pompous image-obsessed arse coming the big "I am!" |
A professional pilot who wears them on his raincoat looks a pompous image-obsessed arse coming the big "I am!" |
Yachtsman with bars... not seen that (thank goodness) but seen plenty of smoke boat weekend skippers with poncy peak caps with seagull poo... :=
So I guess yachtsman are modular and smoke boat drivers are integrated :E (If the FTO's offered a ppls, they’d make you wear a uniform) iX |
I came across with a retired check and training captain now a senior instructor for a flying school who used to fly for an airline that has a large "rat" on it's tail. He still wears four stripes and a STAR on his epulette.
Beat that! :D |
I know a guy like that too.
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sic transit gloria mundi.
Atlas, That's what you can CALL epaulettes! Superjob!!!!!!:ok:
We did quite a few MOD flights in the early '90's, and I used to HATE any of the Air Force types addressing me as "SIR". Just because we HAD to wear stripes and all that crap. Told a few of them that I'd fill them in if they kept on doing it! Word got round, and it reverted to "Mate" thank goodness!:D |
I worked for a flighschool in Florida.
The head of student recrutement (a PPL), used to wear 4 stripes. At one day all of us CFIs showed up with 7 stripes, he didn't think that was funny....but he also didn't show up with stripes anymore ;-) |
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