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maxalt 26th Feb 2007 07:55

Cross Crew Qualification?
 
Can anyone tell me if they are flying CCQ on Airbus - or if they know of any company using CCQ?

Ta.

Dan Winterland 26th Feb 2007 11:45

Do you mean CCQ, or MFF (mixed fleet flying)?

maxalt 26th Feb 2007 13:03

Haven't heard that term before. Sounds like the same concept. Whats the difference?
Anyone doing it on a regular, fleet-wide basis - as opposed to just a small group of pilots (e.g. instructors)?

sinkingship 26th Feb 2007 13:53

CX fly CCQ 330/340

airseb 26th Feb 2007 16:09

air france crew are qualified A340/330.
i believe MEA is cross qualified A330/320

seb

Panama Jack 26th Feb 2007 17:57

Gulf Air has it's Airbus widebody Captains and First Officers cross-qualified on A340/A330.

They also have a handful of Captains cross-qualififed on A330/A320, but these are mostly simulator instructors.

maxalt 26th Feb 2007 19:34

Thanks guys.
Am I right in thinking 'mixed fleet flying' refers to doing A319/320/321 type ops?
If so, nah - thats a piece of piss.

What interests me is how many companies are going A320/A330 (or up).
Its being mooted by our crowd right now, but frankly, all I see is problems. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'm curious about the practicalities of integrating a Widebody with a Narrow body.

How does the training regime work? Currency? Conversions courses? Crew failure rates? Incident rates? Productivity benefits? Is it REALLY worth doing, or just a 'curiosity' with limited benefit and cost impacts which outweigh the benefit?

Is anybody doing it on a 'large scale' as policy, rather than on a limited basis?

Dan Winterland 27th Feb 2007 04:35

Technically speaking in Airbus terms, a CCQ is a Cross Cockpit Qualification - a convervsion from one Airbus FBW type to another. MFF is flying more than one type on one licence. It appears you are asking about the latter.

My Travel in the UK also do it.

maxalt 27th Feb 2007 11:09

Thanks Dan,
Anyone from MyTravel, MEA or Gulf Air who can give some details on the practicalities?

helen-damnation 1st Mar 2007 19:27

Emirates do it - 332/343/345.

Personally I don't find it a problem for general ops, but your tech knowledge can go downhill compared to flying one a/c. Things like cross wind/autoland limits etc etc.

A jack of all types and master of none :O

K.Whyjelly 9th Mar 2007 12:27

Believe bmi do MFF A320/A330 but only after 6 months exclusively on the A330. Standing by to be corrected


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