How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

What kind of stance to employers take on this?? Is you CV in the bin??

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

Why tell them?

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

If you pass it first time, then naturally you might advertise the fact on your CV. If you didn't, it's probably not worth mentioning the fact.

An application form might ask the question, you must obviously tell the truth.

You might or might not be asked about your IR in an interview. I wouldn't get too worried because even if they do, there's a pretty good chance that pilot interviewing you failed or partialled it, and anyway (s)he will know just how little lapse of concentration can spoilt that particular flight.

For the record, I partialled my IRT on the NDB, and it did nothing to hold me back in my airline career.

What I'm saying it's probably not a show stopper.

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

It depends...I failed mine because the examiner was having a bad day...I was within all the limits.etc, he failed me because he was a t"*t. Really nice guy he was not!

Anyway, I got employed cos I didnt tell anyone.:} its really no big deal, just be "economical" with the truth

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

Howdy,
I completly failed mine first time....to date (fi course and 2 typeratings) the only thing concerned with flying i have ever failed.....however i did say to date.
I really thought the end of the world had come when i the examiner hopped out of the seneca and said i'll c u in the briefing room.
Listen, i've always been completly honest about the failure in all the airline interviews i've been for (5 interviews and 5 offers ....must be able to talk B@"ls withthe best of them). They seemed to realise any1 can have bad day and were more interested in how i picked myself up and got on the second time.
I now it prob seems like a big deal right now, but dont dwell on it, and be honest, turn it into a positive and you'll get on just fine.
Best of luck

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

I partialled my initial IR (messed up a stall recovery of all things) and although I knew I was looking at another go on another day, I held it together for the rest of that test so only had to repeat the one section. This came up at interview and I was able to show that I could put something like this at the back of mind and carry on rather than go to pieces. So something positive came out of it. I think the percentage of first time passes is not that high anyway; I've flown with plenty of captains who didn't get it at the first go.

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

I think the best point made by a couple of the previous posters is that what's more important is how you dealt with the setback As long as you don't make one of those 'fly on the wall' programmes where they follow you on your ellusive path to an IR with your 32nd test attempt you will be regarded as just like any other pilot. I jest, but the fact is if you are really not up to it and take several attempts then you may have cause for concern (mainly because of your flawed judgement about suitability in your chosen career). A fail/ partial/ and a retest is not really a problem. In the interview they are trying to find out about YOU as a person, what makes you tick, how you react to things like this setback etc etc. They use a sim assessment to decide on your flying abilities and CRM etc.

What applies in this and every other setback you have ever faced (not just in flying) at interview, is how you present what happened/ what you felt about it/ what you did about it and what POSITIVE result you achieved through learning from the mistake/ failure etc.

Good luck.

PP

Re: How employable are you if you have failed an Inital IR once or twice?
 

757 manipulator, at the debrief the examiner is obliged to tell you exactly where you failed and exactly by how much you breached the minima/limits, he is also obliged to fill out certain forms etc. if he didn't, and you can prove it, you would be entitled to a free re-test, so what happened to you then?;)