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Lan Ding Gere 7th Sep 2004 11:43

plane tracking
 
Hi There guys,

Can a plane still be tracked if it's radar or other tracking instruments are switched off

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 7th Sep 2004 12:03

Not sure what you mean by "radar or other tracking instruments"?? An aeroplane can be seen on primary radar irrespective of what equipment may be carried on board (excluding, of course, stealth aircraft!). For example, light aircraft with no transponders - and some with no radio - can be easily seen on radar..

sss 7th Sep 2004 12:12

is someone trying to do some smuggling and doesnt want to be watched? :\

Milt 7th Sep 2004 12:20

And at very low level the Police radar does a thing on your car.

Lan Ding Gere 7th Sep 2004 12:33

Thanks guys.

That's what i meant RADAR and transponders.

So they can still be seen

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 7th Sep 2004 13:55

<<So they can still be seen>>

Yes... even gliders and even birds!

Wycombe 7th Sep 2004 13:59

...and ships, trains and trucks aswell, if in line-of-sight of the radar head

cortilla 7th Sep 2004 14:01

and nice fluffy clouds

Wino 7th Sep 2004 14:17

For a while in the USA primary radar coverage (unassisted no transponders required) was considering being dropped or reduced.

9/11 changed all that and the primary radar coverage is being beefed up and suplemented with AWACS.

Cheers
Wino

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 7th Sep 2004 15:41

<and nice fluffy clouds>

No - well, not on modern ATC radars!

380 8th Sep 2004 09:57

what about gliders? do they give a primary return?

henry crun 8th Sep 2004 10:01

They do indeed 380.

I have tracked many out to over 100 miles from the radar head, older plywood gliders and the newer GRP jobs.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 8th Sep 2004 15:29

<<...and ships, trains and trucks as well, if in line-of-sight of the radar head>>

Only "maybe". Ships would be far to slow - ATC radars have circuitry which eliminates very slow moving echoes. Ships, trains, trucks..... I've only seen such things on Surface Movement Radar where they are supposed to show.

380 8th Sep 2004 15:46

thx henry

i'll tell all my glider friends to be more careful around CTA boundaries :D

earnest 8th Sep 2004 18:51


Can a plane still be tracked if it's radar or other tracking instruments are switched off
If they couldn't we'd be speaking German! :O

Jerricho 8th Sep 2004 22:27

Only the other day I was passing traffic information to a little Cessna "slow moving prime target in your 1 o'clock........" The pilot happily informed me they were a flock of geese. I don't think he would have been as happy if he hadn't seen them and flown into them.


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