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A320 AC 1+2 FAIL

Old 18th Oct 2021, 14:43
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A320 AC 1+2 FAIL

In the simulator during takeoff at V1, we had all screens go dark. It was an AC 1+2 FAILURE, I stoped inside the runway, but the examiner said it is safer to continue.
how would you handle this one?
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 17:12
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What does your pre departure brief include as reasons to stop after 80 kts? I doubt totally blank EFIS screens is included. You do have standby instruments and skills to use them, don’t you?
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 12:02
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That exact failure (ending up in EEC) has been highlighted recently in our latest recurrent check, I think before the discussion most of us would probably have considered a stop to be a good course of action but the problem is that your ability to stop the aircraft is severely degraded, only 2 spoilers per wing, no reverse and worst of all, no anti-skid. You managed to stop but there is a good chance of a high speed excursion on anything but a very long runway.


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Old 8th Nov 2021, 12:03
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To stop the a/c you have partial spoilers and acc. brake pressure (7 application ,no reverse ) .
Now you have to think ,as usual , from where you are taking off . It is a 4 km rwy dry ? No problem , but what if you are departing from short wet ,contaminated rwy ? You will be able to stop ? So knowing that you lost both AC bus , ok scaring everything go black , you need to rotate on stanby instruments but after second with the RAT the screen will be back on , get airborne you can reach an holding ,make an assestment , decide if go back to the same rwy or looking for a longer one , perform the approach full briefed on what you miss from sys ,brake, rev. etc. . It is not safer than rejecting without knowing if you will be able to stop before the rwy end ?
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Old 8th Nov 2021, 12:59
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Well explained, Nick 1.

And so it should be briefed before the exercise, followed by: "and that is what we will practice during the session."

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