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I suppose not totally impossible. But sort of flies in the face of the previously announced strategy document where the words of the day was downsizing, downsizing and downsizing.
The A321 capacity is close to that of the B757, which BA are disposing of (albeit I know there are operational savings, etc, etc, ), but the plan was to concentrate the short haul fleet on A319 and A320 (max) size aircraft.
Could this be a sign that BA are at last seeing vast improvements on load factors on certain routes????
The A321's already in the fleet are operated by GB Airways and BMed. Do they have CFM engines, same as the EI machines?
On another note - I miss the 757. Lovely aircraft to fly in. Short take off and launching like a rocket..............whereas the A321 sounds like a hairdryer about to explode
The A321 capacity is close to that of the B757, which BA are disposing of (albeit I know there are operational savings, etc, etc, ), but the plan was to concentrate the short haul fleet on A319 and A320 (max) size aircraft.
Could this be a sign that BA are at last seeing vast improvements on load factors on certain routes????
The A321's already in the fleet are operated by GB Airways and BMed. Do they have CFM engines, same as the EI machines?
On another note - I miss the 757. Lovely aircraft to fly in. Short take off and launching like a rocket..............whereas the A321 sounds like a hairdryer about to explode
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Fairly unlikely since (apart from the initial ex-BCAL 320s) BA's A32Xs are IAE powered; Aer Lingus's are CFM56 powered. Also, one would think EI's aircraft are pretty well suited to the DUB/LHR route?
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BA has recently took over an order placed by Aer Lingus with Airbus ... I think for A320's. The aircraft have been parked up at Toulouse without engines and will be retrofitted with IAE engines for BA.
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The EI A321s are also pretty suited to the ORK-LHR route, thank you very much. If anything, in time EI will get some A319s as a BAe 146 & Boeing 737-500 replacement? Hope so, anyway!
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BA A32x
Akerosid made me thinking.
Why BA botherd with IAE for their own A32X when they already operated CFM because of the BCAL order as well as on their own B737 Classic.
Maybe CFM failed to live to the expectation?
Rwy
Why BA botherd with IAE for their own A32X when they already operated CFM because of the BCAL order as well as on their own B737 Classic.
Maybe CFM failed to live to the expectation?
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BA has a history of dubious decisions with regard to Engine choice.............bean counters having their way.
757 s with the discontinued 535 C
767 s which they insisted had to have the 524
Half a fleet of 777s with the rotating disaster..........
757 s with the discontinued 535 C
767 s which they insisted had to have the 524
Half a fleet of 777s with the rotating disaster..........
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The rotating disaster - I like it Cirrus. Nice description.
My sources suggest that they will NOT go for the A321. However, my sources are regulars in The Three Magpies, so take what you will from their credibility.............
My sources suggest that they will NOT go for the A321. However, my sources are regulars in The Three Magpies, so take what you will from their credibility.............
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Interesting rumour - so much for Future Size and Shape. Also rumoured is that 6 767s and 2 757s will be returning to the line - hence the need for 126 new F/Os and 80 additional 757/767 commands.
I guess the beancounters have finally realised that you can't run Waterworld on A319s full of passengers travelling on discounted tickets. One of these days they'll also figure out that it makes no sense flying 747-400s around with 270 pax - 1/3 invol. upgrades!
Future Size and Shape MkII has arrived.
Rotating disaster - sums up BA's management style.
I guess the beancounters have finally realised that you can't run Waterworld on A319s full of passengers travelling on discounted tickets. One of these days they'll also figure out that it makes no sense flying 747-400s around with 270 pax - 1/3 invol. upgrades!
Future Size and Shape MkII has arrived.
Rotating disaster - sums up BA's management style.
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Speaking with someone somewhat "in the know" at BA mgmt yesterday, they would love A321s, but only "at the right price".
Bear in mind there's a fleet of A32xs sitting at ZRH waiting for new owners...
<<Also rumoured is that 6 767s and 2 757s will be returning to the line - hence the need for 126 new F/Os and 80 additional 757/767 commands.>>
Now that rumour I do like!
<<but the plan was to concentrate the short haul fleet on A319 and A320 (max) size aircraft. >>
That was last weeks plan. We are now back using 767s on SH routes due PAX / Slots (lack of) / stupid Ayling plan to downsize aircraft (having just told the T5 enquiry we would all upsize?!)
NoD
Bear in mind there's a fleet of A32xs sitting at ZRH waiting for new owners...
<<Also rumoured is that 6 767s and 2 757s will be returning to the line - hence the need for 126 new F/Os and 80 additional 757/767 commands.>>
Now that rumour I do like!
<<but the plan was to concentrate the short haul fleet on A319 and A320 (max) size aircraft. >>
That was last weeks plan. We are now back using 767s on SH routes due PAX / Slots (lack of) / stupid Ayling plan to downsize aircraft (having just told the T5 enquiry we would all upsize?!)
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It was reported months ago that BA had cancelled 4 out of 8 orders as A318 the launch customer, due to late certification of P&W engines, so swapped for 4 A321s instead! Probably won't fly the other 4 either but are contract bound to do so. Will be leased out.
Hardly anyone left now for P&W A318s and with the collaspe of Dornier a big mistake cancelling the BAE RJs methinks.
Hardly anyone left now for P&W A318s and with the collaspe of Dornier a big mistake cancelling the BAE RJs methinks.
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According to AL Magazine, Sept issue, page 72, BA is purchasing an unfinished A320-200 that was due to go to Aer Lingus.
The picture shows the aircraft in outside storage minus tail/engines etc and has been outside since July, due for delivery later this year
Does not mention 321's or anything else
The picture shows the aircraft in outside storage minus tail/engines etc and has been outside since July, due for delivery later this year
Does not mention 321's or anything else
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Earlier in the spring there was comment about one of the Canadian airlines whose name escapes me just now operating summer charters with A319s from Halifax and St Johns to Gatwick. Just curious to know if this ever came to pass? Thank you!
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Have also heard rumour that 4 B767 returning to shorthaul ops, NWB already in major maint for prep, 3 more returning from desert. Reasoning, to use on major trunk routes to free up slots for flights tx from GTW. Do not think B757 will return, BA still have 15 E4 engined A/C in operation for foreseeable future.