Do airlines approve of this ?
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I am confused, women claim they are unfairly treated in getting a job in aviation, but I have heard a few in our company who play that card to their advantage by saying they will take advantage to get promotion etc, I have to say this creates a lack of respect among your colleagues, some say they don't like to be treated differently yet they make a song and dance about women in aviation, I wish they stop living in the past and move with time, aviation is open to everyone and rightly so.
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It just struck me as all a bit tacky.
Anyone who does this in today's world of blame culture , 'media 'policy' , corporate image guidelines is taking a big risk. Frankly they are more likely to get fired, oh sorry I mean terminated, by some process driven young manager than some gruff oldie who at least understands that sometimes people do silly but not harmful things and that a few words of advice about remembering who signs your paycheck will get a round the company and prevent any recurrence
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There is something wrong with the article.... Journalistically, it doesn't read correctly.... I think it was writtend by a marketing department and sold to MSN.
In general, these types of things annoy me, do you remember those stories written by Will something in Aero Magazine in the UK about 15 years back, the student pilot spending Daddy's Money at Oxford FS?
In general, these types of things annoy me, do you remember those stories written by Will something in Aero Magazine in the UK about 15 years back, the student pilot spending Daddy's Money at Oxford FS?
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If the iPhone had been around 25 years ago I'm sure we would have seen similar then.
If the young ladies are going to hang out the DV window, on the tarmac, like that shouldn't they be wearing a hard hat and a HiViz vest?
If the young ladies are going to hang out the DV window, on the tarmac, like that shouldn't they be wearing a hard hat and a HiViz vest?
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I mean, who in their right mind could be narcissistic enough to risk termination for a few "Likes" on Facebook?
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I know where you're coming from - sounds like our airline has similar policies to yours.
Regardless of "rights" I suspect most Ops Manuals/companies have clauses about social media, or similar, and failing that some clause somewhere about behaviour that might be construed as reflecting badly on the brand.
By all means carefully selfie/post away, but certainly coupling your posts in with your company and it's brand is making yourself a hostage to fortune.
I know where you're coming from - sounds like our airline has similar policies to yours.
Regardless of "rights" I suspect most Ops Manuals/companies have clauses about social media, or similar, and failing that some clause somewhere about behaviour that might be construed as reflecting badly on the brand.
By all means carefully selfie/post away, but certainly coupling your posts in with your company and it's brand is making yourself a hostage to fortune.
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If these images were company sanctioned, from a professional point of view the undone top button, loose tie and low-quality looking shoes do nothing to promote the standards of Pegasus. I've flown with a number of female pilots who seem to think it's acceptable to adapt the uniform standards to suit their own preferences - non-issue trousers for example (tapered/flared) and inappropriate footwear are not only more comfortable but 'way' cooler than the old fashioned stuff the company provides. I know most of us take off our ties and make ourselves a little more relaxed once in the privacy of the flightdeck (some more so than others) but from a professional perspective, I would not want more relaxed images of me on the internet. My company requires jackets to be buttoned when not seated in public for example so posting images in a public place in a pose contrary to company policy surely constitutes the same, or am I just getting old 
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Have just looked at pilotmaria's Instagram images. Very nice and I've enjoyed another Ryanair crewmember's pictures in the past from the privacy of my hotel room (she's cabin not flightdeck though). I notice pilotmaria appears to own a great collection of lanyards - maybe a little light social media sponsorship going on perhaps? Seriously though, this stuff is endemic of the P2F narcissistic younger first officers I've seen around over the past few years. Sat next to a UK operator FO last week who was wearing multicoloured striped socks, winklepickers, top button undone and with a fag sitting behind his ear whilst wired for sound in the busy terminal Starbucks. No belt either so his trousers had ridden down displaying shirt tails and a pair of brightly coloured boxers. What's going on in this so called profession? Does this really go unchecked in some companies? I've always been under the strong impression that when in uniform I represent the company and am their pubic face when wearing it regardless of whether I'm on duty. Is this stuff just not taught anymore or is there a sense of entitlement these days that paying for training, a type-rating or worse affords these individuals?
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Is this stuff just not taught anymore or is there a sense of entitlement these days that paying for training, a type-rating or worse affords these individuals?
With regards to Instagram (and other social media), I don't have a problem with people sharing photos/videos for others to see what goes on behind the cockpit door, and some of the unique views that we're lucky enough to see. I think there's still an element of mystery/awe when it comes to airline flying that the general public find interesting. For example, I used to watch Just Planes "from the cockpit" videos as a kid and it really fed my desire to pursue the career.
However, I think that using the cockpit and your uniform to take selfies for your own gratification and mainstream media attention is a slippery slope, and takes it a step too far.
Reverser, in total agreement with your statement. I have seen many an FO and unfortunately several Captains with the same "I look cool wearing what I want to" etc attitude. One FO has the spikey hair with blonde frosty tips in a buzz cut with designs buzzed in the sides of her hair. She was in uniform and DHing on my flight...was embarrassed to the point of going down the jetway and waiting for the plane there. I didn't want to be seen around her. Sad part is she lives in the same area and commutes on the same airlines as I do.
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I'm not. For every low uniform standard wearer there are many who wear it well and, importantly, in accordance with company protocol. I respect your wish to wear your uniform properly and agree that it's not only the FO's.
Your comment concerning 'mystery and awe' reminds me of once being told that your customers often understand little about how or why an aircraft stays airborne but they trust you to know everything about it; if the crew are unable to follow instructions regarding how they should dress in order that they can fly the aircraft, how much confidence will be instilled in their ability to operate it? Personally, I don't feel there is much distinction these days between bus drivers, train drivers, airline pilots or any other uniform wearing public transport operators as far as public perception is concerned.
Please don't tar us all with the same brush
Your comment concerning 'mystery and awe' reminds me of once being told that your customers often understand little about how or why an aircraft stays airborne but they trust you to know everything about it; if the crew are unable to follow instructions regarding how they should dress in order that they can fly the aircraft, how much confidence will be instilled in their ability to operate it? Personally, I don't feel there is much distinction these days between bus drivers, train drivers, airline pilots or any other uniform wearing public transport operators as far as public perception is concerned.
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Is this stuff just not taught anymore or is there a sense of entitlement these days that paying for training, a type-rating or worse affords these individuals?