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Old 19th Apr 2006, 00:14
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Jeppesen 10-9

Why are some of the Jeppesen airport charts labelled 10-9 and some "Airport"? What is the difference?
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Well, it could well be because a few new pilots didn't realise that the 10-9 has been the airport diagram for over thirty years.

Before that, it was the 10-5.

Amazing, eh?
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DoMePlease,

Seeing as 411A has come up with the correct answer, I'm in mischievous mode now and answering a question with a question......

Why are some of the airport diagram charts labeled 20-9, 20-9B etc.?

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Old 19th Apr 2006, 07:34
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I guess cause some cities are not satisfied having only one airport.So,the first one has 10-9 ,the second 20-9 ,the third 30-9....One example could be Paris.
I hope I got it right..... ...
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Jeppesen have an explination for all the numbers, I can't remember it, but like there are numbers for VOR/DME and NDB etc.

To answer Old Smokey's question, the first number 10-9 in this case '1' is the number given to the airport in a said location. So if you look at London, there's 10-9, 20-9, 30-9, 40-9 & 50-9 all being the airport layout diagram for LHR, LGW, STN, LCY & LTN.

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Party poopers all of you! I thought that that would have kept the original question poster wondering for a bit

All in good fun, BTW how many airports does London have in the Jeppesen series? I've never checked, I've only flown to 3 of them.

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Can't stand Jepp charts - the Aerad/Thales system is much better...
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Smokey, I beleive there's 5 in London.

Richard Spandit, I use Jeppes, used Aerad too, but I think it's just a case of getting familiar with the plates, what's so bad about Jeps? Have you seen the 'things' SAS use WTF!

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I'll admit Jepps are better than the Air Canada plates we were using for a while, but the Aerads have a consistent numbering system whereas I couldn't get my head around the Jeppesen system. All our Aerads come in little booklets which makes them easier to use than the paper thin Jepps crammed into those bloody binders - impractical for day to day use...

Also, I find Jeppesen charts a little crowded, but each to their own...
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Used both, each has good and bad points.

Aerad booklets are tidier, but loose leaf Jepps can be selected individually and strategically placed under the chart holders on the column and side window, negating the need to thumb through the booklet when you go from approach to ILS and then to airfield. Also very useful to be able to view the radar minimums chart at the same time as an approach chart.

The coloured Aerad charts are super in my mind, showing a much better picture of terrain.

The biggest downside of Jepps though has to be the way vital info is dotted in different places on different charts; things like initial level off restriction on SIDs; sometimes in the plan view, sometimes in a note in a box.....god damn awful and a sure fire reason for an altitude bust at unfamiliar airfields.

Now LIDO charts, there's a nice layout that is easy to read and coloured. I liked them a lot in my time with Hapag Lloyd.

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And the answer to the original question right at the top is...
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..contained in post number 2, just below the one with the question in it .
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AERAD are now owned by European Aeronautical Group (Euronautical) not Thales.
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Really? Didn't know that... not to worry, still prefer the charts... perhaps if the company I worked for with Jepps had the most frequently used charts in a different binder, on thicker paper, it might have stopped them getting so tatty - they were impractical for daily operation, which is why some of them got laminated - not easy to see at night with a spotlight on them
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Old 21st Apr 2006, 19:06
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Dunno, we get our Jepp charts in neat little booklets, one per airport including weather/gen info pages and pictures of the airport layout from an approach point of view or overhead the airport. Airports we don't use frequently are not available in booklets however and those pages are used up very fast.
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All very neat..

This is called a tailored subscription, Denti, and many many airlines specify these for the benefit of their pilots...and the office staff, who have to update same.*
Good value, and besides, surely airline folks don't want 3000 foot runways that just happen to have an instrument approcach designated, as clearly these would not be useful for the airline crowd...well, big airplanes anyway.

* A few misguided small airlines specify that the pilots update the Jeppesen charts, which usually results in a cock up with the binder contents...not good!
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Ooooh !!! you can't beat the EFB No more flicking through paper and amending manuals.
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yes ,but it runs on batteries.......
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