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Tiger Bob 15th August 2003 15:47

See also
 
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=99033

Tiffany 6th August 2004 19:28

US,Canada or South Africa?
 
Hi there!

Without holding the passports of US/Canada/ South AFrica, which country should i choose to go for training?

Cheers
Tiff
:O

B Sousa 7th August 2004 06:47

Choose the one that will give you quality training for the best price AND result in a license you can use in more than one country.
Surf around the net, get some opinions and be careful as to not go to a place that wants up-front money.

Capt. J 7th August 2004 06:55

Australia is a good place for training. There are oversea students that fly here. CX sends their cadets over here to Australia to fly.

Cheers

Tiffany 7th August 2004 07:46

Thanks Everyone=)

I've overheard that Australian pilots are not huving a easy time getting a flying job and some of them is going to to the States or elsewhere to find jobs, isnt that True?

To be frank i 'm only a Hong Kong passport holder :{ JUst thinking abt the employment opportunity after i trained in whatever country....

Cheers,
Tiff

Capt. J 7th August 2004 08:00

Sorry, if you're talking about flight training in Australia then I'd recommend it.

About the jobs, it is true everyone here's having a hard time (Although not me 'yet' :rolleyes: )

Africa is a good place to find a job for experience and bush flying. Some jobs don't require residence but a permit to stay there.

birdlady 7th August 2004 15:01

Hi Tiffany

I myself trained in South Africa and have to say the training is excellent. However the JAA school that was here in JHB went bankrupt two days after I fininshed my PPL. PHEEWWWW!!! If your looking for JAA, I would suggest the states for your PPL and hour building and then a CPL Multi IR in the UK. The states is cheaper than SA. Do some more research and then decide. SA is good for PPL and hour building and the training is very similar to the European JAA but the SA CPL cant be converted to JAA very easily but you can fly in the UK with an SA PPL (I also have an SA PPL).
With regard to what Capt J is saying about jobs here they are very few and far between at the moment and a lot of companies will not take an "inexperienced" pilot who has just received their CPL. As with work permits, I know atleast in SA, they are very hard to get.

Ciao BL.

Tiffany 7th August 2004 17:12

Thanks guys so much for replies=)

indeed i flew a while in Cape Town and seemed to me that employment opportunity doesnt sound 2 good ( that's y i'm thinking if i should switch 2 some other country)

however i've overheard in Cape Town that there're some chance in Congo and some other country in Africa.dunno if it's true ?

Umm.. indeed seems 2 me that the States is a bit cheaper 2 fly yet adding up the standard of living..will Florida /California turns out 2 be more expensive?

A US pilot recommend me to find a school in the States that can help me with J1 Visa after i finish the training( so i can stay in US for 2 yrs to gain flying experience.) Is that true though?

Take Care and GOd bless!

tiff:O

birdlady 7th August 2004 23:56

Hi Tiffany

South Africa is excellent for inital training - PPL and hour building. As you said, and I couldnt agree with you more, the flying maybe cheaper in the states but when you factor in the cost of living SA is definately cheaper and from what Ive heard the training is better than the States (dont quote me but this is what Ive heard). There are some excellent schools here, but I would definately avoid the coast as the weather can be a bit more dodgy or so Ive heard. There's one very good school in Johannesburg, Superior Pilots Services in Grand Central. I did my SA PPL with them and the instructors are really EXCELLENT.
What I would really suggest is do the ppl and hour building here and then go to Europe for the CPL/Multi IR.
As with regard to the congo and other african countries for a job after you train, the jobs are few and far between and if your a foreigner the chances of getting a work permit are slim. What you've got to remember is that there are so many pilots and so few jobs that the jobs that do come up are in high demand so they usually prefer to take locals but I suppose is always worth a try but I wouldnt be relying on this method.
CIAO BL

jr51xx 8th August 2004 04:18

Flight Training
 
Hi Tiffany,

Everyone seems to have an opinion about where the best training may be found, but quite often it seems that they feel the best training is in their home country (loyalty is good!).

I will not tell you that the US or any place else is best for flight training. There are a wide variety of facilities and operators here in the US, but remember that the US has a huge economy and a large number of pilots, aircraft and simulators are here. There are many places to choose from for your training (many with a very reasonable cost of living) and the program that you were told about, the J1 visa, is for real.

I have known several pilots that have trained here in the US and then turned around and stayed as a flight instructor for a period to gain experience. Many training operators advertise this visa and sponser people for this program.

Selecting a flight training facility is a big decision. With your passport would you have any other countries that you would have easy access to for resident/right to work status? That in itself might help you with your decision.

If you are interested in any US operators and have any questions, give me an email. I will try to help you find some answers if I am able.

Best of luck on your career!

John

hekokimushi 8th August 2004 07:19

Hey Tiffany,

are you from hk then? ha... me too. have you attempted the CX cadet programme? anyway, i tried with zero hour flight time and i got rejected (possibly of my group discussion performance). anyway, i am training for my JAA-PPL where i live (UK - Peterborough!!! bloody expensive in the UK). I also am looking for some other countries to train.

Anybody have any advice on New Zealand's training facilities? I am unsure to if i should stop flying (no................... get me in the air... but too exp in the UK. GBP106/dual hour in C-152 for the school that i am with for Pay as you go) or save up and go somewhere else to train for a CPL for the price of a JAA-PPL in the UK (projected cost GBP4700 + exams fee 7 ground 1 radio and check ride, i already have my JAA-Class 2). and self study for ATPL or ATP in US :p.

Also anywhere just as a statistic measure as to the cost for a Class 1 medical cost? in the UK - to be done in Gatwick for initial costs GBP400.00.

i will definately try CX and KA again thou. although i heard KA are very cocky about their selection process and have not heard any successes candidates.

any advice would be appreciated.

regards,

nelson


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