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AlphaCharlie 18th September 2002 09:28

Fly be sponsorship scheme
 
This may well be old news, but having done a brief search I couldn't find any recent topics about it. The following is an announcement on Cabair's website (www.ccat.org.uk):

"CCAT is delighted to announce that after successful negotiations with flybe., the Airline will part sponsor trainee pilots for the eighth successive year. The selection procedure will start at Cranfield in early November and successful candidates will commence training on the JAA ATP Integrated Course in March 2003. The scheme will be announced on Tuesday 24 September with advertisements in Flight International and on this website. You will only be able to apply for an information pack from this date and no requests should be made direct to the Airline. flybe. is the new brand for British European and to learn more about their new deal for customers along with the services that they offer, go to the website at www.flybe.com"

Hopefully this trickle of sponsored places will keep on coming!

jonathang 18th September 2002 19:54

Does anyone know if this will be a high hour requirement sponsorship?

fonawah 19th September 2002 07:47

Does anyone know the upper age limit for this sponsorship?

monkeyboy 19th September 2002 09:13

johnathong, from past experience it's usually the KLM/Cabair scheme that requires high hours and then you go on to instruct.

fonawah, the trend for sponsorship schemes has the age group between 18 - 26. If I remember rightly, BE - or JEA as they were when I was a whippersnapper - held the 18-26 limit.

As usual, this is all pure speculation because I don't have any inside info and I haven't seen the advert yet!

Good luck!

MB:)

timzsta 19th September 2002 09:34

If this is an Instructor sponsorship then the usual requirements are 180tt, IMC and Night. If its the non instructor one then I know people who have been successful with less than 60hrs tt at time of interview and are now flying the Dash 8. I think the money you need to contribute is just over £30k, the rest comes out of your wages during your bonded time I think.

Good luck to those who apply.

fonawah 19th September 2002 10:10

cheers monkeyboy. I guess at 32 yrs old, that puts me well outside the age bracket...d'oh!!:mad:

Bleep 19th September 2002 12:16

I applied to their last scheme (Advertised under BEA - didn't make it !) and I believe the upper age limit was 26 with no requirements on flying hours... although you had to demonstrate a "keen interest" in aviation. The total amount of cash that you needed to contribute to the scheme was £32,000 :eek: Literature stated that the first couple of years would have been spent on the Dash 8 with the possibility of shifting to the BAe-146 further throughout you career. Nice if you can get hold of the cash :confused:

Sagey 19th September 2002 12:32

Did them last year, didn't really like the aptitude tests you have to take. I use the word aptitude loosely as they seemed to be based on who knows the more physics than who has the better aptitude to make it as a pilot. You have to pay for them as well, £50 I think.

As said before £32k needs to be paid, although main boost is job at the end :)

Not decided if I will apply this year yet, if you apply good luck to you

PS Do Physics revision ;)

Sagey

foghorn 19th September 2002 15:28

The last time that JE/BE/flyBE ran this it was an integrated course therefore zero/low hour applicants were fine.

I have it on fairly good authority that the Cabair/KLMuk instructor sponsorship scheme has gone forever, along with all DEP hiring to KLMuk (with the exception of a few more experienced DEPs in the next few months).

The airline itself will ceases to exist as a seperate entity from KLM's Dutch operations in five years time and UK-based pilots will be discouraged.

RIP a good first airline job for many pilots.

Cheers!
foggy.

Rhumb Line 20th September 2002 12:38

Bleep did you attend the interviews at Cranfield durin April this year. If so how did you do.......... I think I remember talking to you

Bleep 21st September 2002 10:17

Hi RL,

Afraid it wasn't me, I didn't make interviews. I seemed to have a Pythagoras Theorem problem on the aptitude day, and didn't get past the first step ! Dunno why, but Cabair tests always throw me, although nothing is too difficult really, but Oxford's are always fine :confused: Oh well. Good luck to all those attending if BEA (Flybe.. whatever they're called nowdays) are sponsoring. I can't get hold of the cash required anyhow so will be leaving it this time....

Cheers,

Bleep.

AlphaCharlie 23rd September 2002 11:25

Advert in this week's Flight (24-30 September 2002) says:

"The airline is pleased to announce that it will once again offer a part sponsorship scheme for cadet pilots..... with flybe making a substantial contribution towards the initial cost of a JAA ATP integrated course at Cranfield."

Age range 20 - 28 on 1st March 2003
5 GCSEs
2 A-levels, preferably in maths and sciences.


No mention of hours and no mention of exact money to be put up by cadets!!

Guess we'll have to wait and see what the info pack says when it lands through our letter boxes!

Funkie 23rd September 2002 17:02

Looks good to me....
 
From Cabair website;

flybe. (formerly British European) Europe's largest independant regional airline has this year been voted 'Best Short-Haul Airline' and 'Best Short-Haul Business Carrier'. flybe. combines the best qualities of traditional airlines with the innovative approach of low cost carriers, to offer a new deal to customers.


The airline is pleased to announce that it will once again offer a part sponsorship scheme for cadet pilots. Successful applicants will benefit from a proven formula with flybe. making a substantial contribution towards the initial cost of a JAA ATP Integrated Course with CCAT at Cranfield.

Applicants must be between the age of 20-28 on 1st March 2003, have the unrestricted right to live an work in the UK, and have an absolute minimum of 5 GCSE and 2 A level passes, preferably in Mathematics and Science based subjects. You will already hold, or be capable of holding, a JAR Class 1 Medical Certificate.

If you meet these requirements and have the enthusiasm and drive to join this winning team email [email protected] now for a prospectus and application form. Please quote BE8 and include your full address and postcode.

Closing date for applications is 30th October 2002.


Now what is interesting are the entry requirements, and the upper age limit, this is the highest I've ever seen.

Good luck all.

Fra:D

monkeyboy 23rd September 2002 21:55

Lady luck is at it again!
 
Indeed, that age limit is most pleasing. I fit in with just seven days to spare! Phew....

Here we go again.......good luck to one and all!

VTOL 24th September 2002 14:06

AlphaCharlie, if it's the same as previous years (which I'm sure it is) then it is an Integrated, Ab-Initio course, ie no hours requirement and the cadet has to pay approx £33k (about half) of the course fees.

So here we go again...

Good luck...

VTOL :D

Bleep 24th September 2002 14:59

Quick question... how the hell do people in their 20's (without a house like moi) manage to get their hands on that sort of cash !? Unsecured loans for those amounts are surely out of the question !? Probably a boring question asked many times, but I am intrigued.

GolfFoxtrot 24th September 2002 15:16

Graduate with a degree in geophysics, work like a complete nutter offshore with no life for 3-4 years and save enough money. This also works for the zero sponsorship option most of us end up doing.

Or marry a rich girl and win the lottery. :D It depends on your motivation.

Autofly 24th September 2002 15:40

I'm back ........ after a long time in the wilderness .....

Hi Sagey, VTOL, how's it going???

32k is a hell of a lot of cash I agree but it has to be said that this advertisement is good news for all us wannabes - I know i'll be applying;)

Good luck to all.

Sagey 24th September 2002 20:20

Very well thanks Autofly, new job, doesn't pay well but a newish company and keep getting told we onto something big. Pig do keep flying pass the windows at work and still find it amusing they say it with a straight face ;)

Well I will probably have a go too, although I do hate Cabair tests. Said it before but for the people that don't know, I don't consider them to be aptitude tests they are who can remember the most maths, physics and the people that score in the top are invited back.

BA, Militiary do it a different way ie whoever reaches the set target goes through to the next stage or "final board" then there are interviews, group tasks etc before they reach their decision. IMO that is a better system.

Anyway good luck to everyone, although without sounding too negative I am keeping a close eye on political events :rolleyes: , sponsorships can be taken away quicker than they are announced!


Sagey

AlphaCharlie 27th September 2002 09:27

I got the prospectus and application form through the post this morning!

I won't be applying! I personally don't have £32,500 to spare!

The prospectus is very thorough and lays out all the interview and testing dates and costs, so from that point of view it is very good.

However, having to front up £32K, £50 for initial test, £100 for interview and computer aptitudes, it is no wonder that the application form is relatively 'simple' and doesn't include any essay questions - there can't be that many people who can afford this!!


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