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pjdj777 23rd April 2001 13:46

Lesson learned
 
Well, that's one avenue for yours truly closed then. Having got the IR last year, I got an interview with a very well respected airline. Got through the interview and on to the sim ride, and then it all went a bit Pete Tong http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

Since passing the IRT all I've done is potter around in a single, enjoying myself in good vfr (when it's been available).

DON'T DO IT - keep your IR skills up to speed, fly as often as you can in a twin and fly ILS's, NDBs and IR routes just to keep your scan up to speed, don't be like me and just relax, it comes as a shock how quickly a scan can fall apart, I can tell you.

Lesson learned, I'm off for some more IR practice, happy in the fact that I got so close, wound up by the fact that yet it's still so far.


MJR 23rd April 2001 14:52

Dear PJ,

I wouldn't dispair too much from this at least you got to this stage of the selection process.

I was advised recently by a chap who recently did this for JMC and succeeded in getting a job, that your initial bash at the sim ride is supposed to be a complete F*** up, and it is the subsequent attempt that is more keenly observed to see how quickly you get on the learning curve.

better luck next time

cheers

MJR

juswonnafly 23rd April 2001 14:53

pjdj777

Very sorry to hear the news. You are to be commended for sharing this with us.

I too let my IR lapse for over a year and having just renewed it I intend never to let it slip again.

Q feel raised an interesting point in his posting which indirectly you have answered.

All the best

JWF :)

AffirmBrest 23rd April 2001 14:55

You think pottering around VFR in a single is bad for IR currency?

Try flying an Airbus everyday... :)

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Q Feel 23rd April 2001 16:24

pj,

Sorry to hear the bad news. You seem to be taking it much better than I would have done.

Apologies for the simaltaneous post about IR currency.

Hang in there,

Q.

RVR800 23rd April 2001 17:59

This is an EXTREMELY important post

In my view one of the main problems with
the IR or IMC rating is that so few people
on getting these ratings actually USE them
for approaches and most sponsored people let the single crew IR lapse in favour of the MCIR

If before issuing the rating one had fly single crew in a PA44 in cr@p weather down
to minimums WITHOUT an instructor sitting in then confidence would build

Remember when you went solo
Remember yout first X country nav

There is no defining moment in IFR flying
like this - Comment ?




[This message has been edited by RVR800 (edited 23 April 2001).]

pjdj777 23rd April 2001 19:33

First of all thanks for the replies, it's very much appreciated.

I think I should clarify, I haven't let my IR lapse and would not do so, since most airlines stipulate that you should have a current IR and multi engine rating before applying, I hope that answers your other query Q.

What I haven't done is practiced IR flying too much since, sure I've done a bit, but I haven't pushed myself, and haven't been tested in any situations, except one where the wx closed in behind me and I flew an ILS back in (two months ago). Sure you can be current, but are you in "current practice"?

My plans now are to fly with IR instructors throwing all sort of crap at me, as much as I enjoy tootling in singles I'm going to have to splash out on quality flying, some P1, some with an instructor just to keep me on my toes.

What is annoying is that in my IRT the examiner praised me on my IR flying ability, one of the best he's seen, he said. Four months later my IR scan has become non existent and this has cost me a jet job.

Complacent? I guess so. My fault that I had a golden opportunity and didn't grasp it with both hands, despite appearances I have beaten myself up about that.

Am I going to dwell on it - no, no point in that, take it on the chin, dust yourself down and start all over again. Next time I'll be ready for it.

RVR - good point, when you do need to use your IR for real it's normally because you have to. I thought that two months ago when I got caught out.

Snigs 23rd April 2001 20:03

Sorry to hear it pj.

This is a salutary lesson to all of us on the road to where you are. I'm sure your attitude and effort will pull you through in no time.

Wee Weasley Welshman 23rd April 2001 20:37

Damn, damn, damn.

"There is not a fiercer hell than the failure in a great object." John Keats

Chin up, there will be other opportunities, perhaps better ones for you.

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