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liquidhockey 24th January 2002 23:09

Will they cut the grade?
 
Just a question regarding ATPL's.

In a general, experienced, opinion would the regular guy with 2 d grade a-levels (not in maths or physic, although has c grade GCSE's in them) be able to cope with the technicality of ATPL's?

Regards. .Dave

Meeb 25th January 2002 01:41

Yes! The CAA used to suggest a minimum of 5 O level passes (don't know what they are called now), to succeed on the ATPL course. I know folks without ANY academic quals who got through, its all in your desire to do it you see...

clear prop!!! 25th January 2002 03:29

LH

There’s a load of crap talked here a bout the prerequisite qualifications for ATPL study.

It’s true to say that a lot of students do badly at school because they can’t see any point to the content of the syllabus. However, given a subject that interests them and with a goal in mind, that same student can excel.

Have a look at some of the course work. Some good Samaritans here might be prepared to lend you some old manuals (I’ll start you off). Have a look at them and ask yourself honestly, if you think they can hold your total and unwavering attention and if you think you can cope.

For the first time in your life of education, you will find yourself on your own. You and you alone will determine your success or otherwise. It’s bloody hard work, but I’ve seen kids with the thick end of no scholastic qualifications to their name helping out guys with degrees in engineering.

If it’s right for you, you WILL succeed.

I’ll email you in the morning with an offer of one subject manual… which, you WILL return or your name will be mud!!

Regards

cp

mintfavour 25th January 2002 12:56

Dont mean to hi jack your thread bue just a quick relevant question.

Are all JAA ATPL theory exams multiguess. If so how many choices do you get?

With the PPL exams all my results were all above 90% and my IMC paper I got 100%.

Understandabley the ATPL exams are going to be alot harder. But is it possible to devise from these results whether you would be able to cope with the ATPLs.

Cheers

Mint

Polar_stereographic 25th January 2002 13:01

mintflavour,

Don't know about the JAR exams, but for the national ones, the real difference is the sheer volume of information that you are required to absorb and use in a relativly short time scale.

PS

Delta Wun-Wun 25th January 2002 13:12

The JAR Exams are multi-choice.It is the sheer volume of material that there is to study.Rumour has it that the Instruments paper has a question bank in excess of 6000 questions. <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

Lucifer 25th January 2002 13:48

With those above having said that outstanding qualifications are not entirely necessary, I would like to introduce the caveat that it would be a very good idea to brush up fully on Maths GCSE and ensure that you ae quick and precise at mental arithmetic, as this can be a great help.

Long Briefing 25th January 2002 14:24

Polar_stereographic has hit the nail on the head. If you are prepared to put in the work there is nothing requiring the brains of Einstein, however there is an awful lot of information to try cram into your head and then decant over the 2 exam days.

Good luck!

Paul Hickley 25th January 2002 16:14

It's practical ability and sheer motivation that counts, not the level of your previous study.

Take maths as an example. Somebody asked much the same question recently and I posted the following reply:

"You need to be quick and proficient at elementary mental arithmetic - adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing - without a calculator - quickly and accurately.. .You need to be able to re-arrange elementary algebra - ie, "make 'x' the subject of the following equation" when it is set out as 'y' = something.

And you need to understand sine, cosine, and tangent.

It really doesn't need to be any deeper than that. No calculus. No hyperbolic functions".

If you want more detailed advice on your own particular situation, post a question on one of the forums to be found here :

<a href="http://www.oxfordaviation.net/forum" target="_blank">http://www.oxfordaviation.net/forum</a>

and it will be answered by an experienced professional.

Paul

clear prop!!! 27th January 2002 13:18

LH,

Your email address ain't working.

cp

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