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captain_rossco 22nd April 2009 10:58

The link between tattoos and mutilation is a poor one. We move on, acceptable standards do the same. Many a pilot, airline and military alike are to be seen sporting "ink" these days.
Full sleeves of "tribal ink" would, at most if not all airlines be outlawed for public display but subtle proud adornments are commonplace and in todays society bare absolutely zero correlation between a person's ability (moral or practical) to Pilot an aircraft.
The rebellious days of mutilatative Goth Tats for shock and horror purposes are very much confined to the minority these days. However, for more mature members of society, todays tattoos may still be synonymous with those of yesterday, and very different side of Britain.

Regards
CR

annita 22nd April 2009 11:26

As i said, i started the thread to find out if any new rules have been established for tattoos and not if its right for a pilot to have one or not but it seems that some of you are making this into a debate.
Yes i agree that it is not very nice to see pilots with tattoos but there are no rules against it so we should live with it and thanks to the ones that gave a reply about the question i asked.
For the rest of you that want to continue this debate feel free to continue........

Whirlygig 22nd April 2009 12:54

Annita, your original question has been answered.

Let me summarise:- anyone who told you that you couldn't get a class 2 medical if you had a tattoo was winding you up. However, if you want definite confirmation, check on the medical forum.

Since those points have already been made and there is no point in repeating them (shouldn't be any point in repeating them!), then the rest of the thread may as well degenerate into a free-for-all on the rights and wrongs of tattoos. If you are not happy with the debate, then you are free to delete the whole thread. Go to your first post, click edit and delete.

Cheers

Whirls

suraci 22nd April 2009 19:20

The original post was in the context of a medical. Perhaps the misunderstanding arose from the doc asking about tattoos and scars, the details of which are recorded for a purpose which you hope will never arise!

Shunter 22nd April 2009 20:11

Personally I find smith's attitude infinitely more offensive than any tattoo. Whether you like them or not, if they're hidden by a standard uniform it's noone's business but your own. Someone with love/hate on their knuckles and a spider on their face are perhaps a little different, but as with so many things in life they've made their choice and have to live with it.

A little respect for people with different preferences to your own goes a long way. Intolerant, judgemental pricks like you make me sick.

captain_rossco 22nd April 2009 21:16

Nicely Put, I get too scared of e-bullying to verse things quite so concisely.

:ok:
Regards
CR

JohnRayner 22nd April 2009 21:36

Just so.
 
Hitler was civilised because he always shaved and wore a suit. Ghandi was not because he often looked a bit scruffy and wouldn't change out of his pyjamas.

Some of the most well natured people you'll ever meet will look like people you'd cross the street to avoid, and I've personally met very well presented people who'd much rather stick a broken bottle in your neck than pass the time of day with you.

In fact we've probably never lived in a world where you can judge a person by the shine on their shoes and the firmness of their handshake (see first two lines).

I do concede that first impressions last, but surely it behoves the "civilised" individual to look beyond the first impression to the person underneath. That'll be why we no longer gas the Jewish and treat black people like slaves, yes?

Happy Days.

JR

Exaviator 22nd April 2009 22:28

For Mr. Smiths edification and enlightenment I have a tattoo of an anchor on my forearm and a medal to go with it, both obtained whilst serving my country as a member of the Australian Fleet Air Arm. It is somewhat faded today but I still recall that memorable run ashore in Hongkong back in 1960 when I and a few other shipmates became "Badged".

I am retired now, but that tattoo did not have any bearing on my character or the wonderful forty year career that I enjoyed as an airline pilot much of which was spent as a Check & Training Captain on a multitude of aircraft from DC3s to 747s.

Having been on several pilot selection boards I would be more concerned with an applicant who displayed such tunnel vision, than one who sported a tattoo.

smith 23rd April 2009 00:09

I am presuming that all the people supporting my views have virgin skins and those offended/aghast by my views have indeed been inked right?

JohnRayner 23rd April 2009 05:46

How're you going to cope when someone says no? 'Cos I'm getting the impression your world view has about two shades to it.

JR

Whirlygig 23rd April 2009 06:33

Smith, I oppose your views and yet I have no tattoos, no piercings (not even my ears) but I do wear a little lippy if I'm going out :} My skin, as you say, is virginal.

I cannot understand why you should be so "anti" something that actually has very litttle effect on you. Were you traumatised by a tattooed man when you were a child? :) Maybe a little look inwards might reveal the source of your dogmatism.

Cheers

Whirls

clanger32 23rd April 2009 09:20

For my money, personally I don't really like Tats. Not my thing....I think they're often done with a flouncy statement of "I'M an individual!" - whilst totally failing to recognise every other tattooed "individual" out there. However, that aside, I think the issue as far as employment is murky. The aformentioned knuckledragger who has decided to ink every square mm of available skin and is busy trying to stick a water butt through their earlobe is going to struggle to obtain any kind of high level employment, because, let's face it - it doesn't really say "stable, professional" does it?

However, most people have one or two tats, easily covered up. If it's covered, I fail to understand why it's an issue for this, or any other, career....

Rhyspiper 23rd April 2009 10:25

Nice one Whirls! You fail to disappoint as usual!!!:ok:

BSmuppet 23rd April 2009 10:43

I am speechless at this post. I have no words.

But without doubt I can not fathom why ANY male would want a tattoo. It is monumentally ridiculous.

Tattoos ONLY look good on the lower back of slender females (waist 24 and no more) where the sting of a scorpion or the Wing of a butterfly can be seen just above the Thong Line.

Whirlygig 23rd April 2009 11:03


Tattoos ONLY look good on the lower back of slender females
The Tramp Stamp eh? I wonder why? :hmm:

Maybe The Laydeez might find the equivalent "dermatological enhancement" attractive on a male's torso? C'mon, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander???

Cheers

Whirls

BSmuppet 23rd April 2009 11:10

No. Just no.

smith 23rd April 2009 11:35

ok lets cut to the chase, and I know all of you will

agree with me on this

tattoo on male = criminal

tatoo on female = $L@G

finally we can all agree on something, 'nuff said!!!

BSmuppet 23rd April 2009 11:44

OK.

This is a fact - NO ARGUMENT.

A little scorpion or Butterfly on the lower back of a sender female is extremely attractive and the babes that I have seen are nothing like *&@Gs. Little bit rough round the edges but that's all.

When I was at university, I used to do part time gardening for a milf down the road. Trimming her hedges that sort of thing. She had a tattoo and looked very elegant with it.

I'm really getting tired of all these stereotyping on pprune.

KSM 23rd April 2009 12:27


ok lets cut to the chase, and I know all of you will

agree with me on this

tattoo on male = criminal

tatoo on female = $L@G

finally we can all agree on something, 'nuff said!!!
you are a trool.....:yuk:

Whirlygig 23rd April 2009 12:46

So muppet, why can't a gentleman look attractive with a tattoo?

Cheers

Whirls


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