thanks pprune for deleting a important thread!
 

message to the forum monitor
i am trying to build hours in the states and have come across alot of anguish with a certain florida based Jaa flight School.

All i asked was for people that had similar problems with floridas flight schools to personaly email their complaints to me, so that i can forward the complaints to the BBC Watchdog program.

Instead you deleted my thread. Why?
freedom of speech is very important when people spend their hard earned cash to achieve a Dream.

certain Floridian based JAA flight schools need serious investigations in their bussiness practices but cant be touched as there outside the UK consumer protection measures.

PPRUNE is suppose to help us not stiffle us:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Ah yes, that important thread.

The one in which you started every sentence with a small letter and then proceeded to mis-spell every third word. However, that aside you didn't suggest you had suffered any difficulty yourself, simply that others should send you details of any stories where they "had been treated like dirt". You didn't want to hear any stories where this hadn't happened. Once compiled you were then going to send all the stories to the " BBC Watchdog Program".

The one response before your thread was removed, simply questioned whether this was some sort of wind up.

Any one who has been here longer than 5 minutes should know that there are many stories of training establishments, both good and bad. If you can be bothered to use the search function, you will no doubt discover this for yourself. This post that you place such importance to, was submitted on the 27th January at 2245z and removed the following morning some 9 hours later. It has taken you 5 whole days to discover this travesty of justice !

Whilst it is obviously painful for us to feel we have in any way stifled your "freedom of speech", we remain committed to keeping these forums free of anything we consider inappropriate.

jetdriver, that is the best post i have read in ages. Cap dothed!

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I think you'll find that the cap was 'doffed' but that aside, remind me never to get on the wrong side of jetdriver ! Withering fire on an admittedly static target.

Jetdriver - you beat me to it - just!

HWB

Jetdriver

Good to see that some one is on top of this.


thanks.

Hardly withering fire and hardly a static target. The owners of this site have to careful of libel allegations.

One can only wonder whether GATZY has a hidden agenda. Why should somebody who has not used a particular school want to compile a dossier on that school's alleged shortcomings for publication and broadcast?

I can categorically state that Watchdog would not be in the slightest bit interested as it's not the sort of subject matter which would bring in audience numbers.

No matter, I would reckon there is more to GATZY's motives than a crusade on behalf of disgruntled students.

Cheers

Whirls

Withering fire
 

Mr Whirls

I was, as I suspect you knew, attempting mild irony and having actually appeared (in a positive light!) on the t.v. programme mentioned, I am very much aware of how strict their production/editing values are.

In friendship,

Eagle402.

Eagle402,

I'm afraid your irony wasn't that apparent - and I am British! However, my post was aimed at the general readership.

Cheers

Whirls



PS - If you wish to address someone by title, please check his or her profile first! Ta!

Freedom of speech does not exist here.

No constitutional right exist here. In fact being British they certainly do not exist here.

This is a dictatorship. Benign. Informed. Intelligent. Experienced.

One could even say it resembles a Constitutional Monarchy. Though Danny has never gotten around to writing a Constitution.

Whine about your rights as long as you like old chap. We frankly don't give a damn.

WWW

Now THAT'S withering fire! :}

Cheers

Whirls

I doubt Watchdog would be interested as not enough people involved. It's also a little too remote from regular viewers daily lives. They only seem to cover stories than make people think "that could be me" where as most will be thinking "Wow Florida, wish I could go there". Now if you could find a little old lady or two who was having problems with their flying school stealing their pension it might be different.

Now if you could find a little old lady or two who was having problems with their flying school stealing their pension it might be different.



well oxford have got to pay for their new logo somehow!!!;);)

Can't say I've ever been stiffled, but Whirls might. WWW says it all - if you think you have any rights at all on this site, you completely misunderstand the situation.

OI! :ouch: I resemble that comment!!! :\

It may be said that a bottle of Shiraz could have me stiffled but ...... :}

Cheers

Whirls

Does any of your comments help well no its doesnt. IT has acheved the square root of ZERO.
1. just beacuse i didnt check on the thread every five minutes it doesnt make it NOT important .it was an important thread and if you read the prev one you would of noticed i was in florida hour building (attention to the detail ie facts (and your a pilot!))so did not have access or time to check on the thread.
2. i mispelled a couple of things so what!
If you want to be a English Teacher change your job .
Dont just MOAN at me(you got the point anyhow!) and bearing in mind the fact i did not have the time to analyse my thread before sending it beacause a certain flight school doesnt even let you view PPrune. and if you want to go round it properly THen why dont you moan at people that dont present it as a formal letter or punctuation? SMUCK!
3. it might not matter to you. hence why the title of my original thread was aimed a those with problems with floridian flights schools.
and secoondly i matters to me and there is no hidden agenda (why the **** would there be?) i am wanting make a stand against the evil prctices that happen at thease flight schools in terms of people getting ripped of with there hard earned money ..YES HARD EARNED MONEY i bet most of you that made the stupid nonsence little helpful (mostly harmful)comments where Sponsered through life aswerll as avation by the Mummy or Daddy LIKE most of the spoilt little BRATS you are. and by shooting my comments down in flames proves that!
4. how do you know watchdog won`t be intrested? beacause you assumed?gueess what they are i personally know the Exec Producer.
whos is very much intrested
YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE

One thing you learn about this website is don't make enemies, especially with the mods, you should be more careful where you do business!! Watchdog is only interested in dodgy companies that affect the masses!:bored:

Well done Jetdriver:ok:

Wise up GATZY:=

Do any of your comments help ? Well no they don't. They have achieved the square root of zero.
Start the sentence with a Capital letter. "Beacause" is spelt because. The "i" should be a capital "I". The word "didnt" should have an apostophe as in "didn't". There is an apostophe in doesn't. Comma after "important" unless you intended to start a new sentence after the misplaced full stop, in which case "it" should start with a capital "I". "Prev" isn't a word, and if you are using it as an abbreviation it should have an apostrophe after it. Your use of "would of noticed" should be "would have noticed". That small "i" again ! Florida is a proper noun and should be spelt with a capital letter. Ironically your " ( attention to the detail ie facts ( and your a pilot!)) so did not have access or time to check on the thread", lacks a great deal of attention to detail. There is both a misuse and over use of brackets together with a dearth of punctuation marks. The use of i.e requires a full stop between the letters, as it is an abbreviation of the latin id est (that is).
That "i" again. This time a double fault, as it is both a pronoun and the start of a new sentence. With even more irony you "mispelled" misspelled. "So what !" Should have a question mark (?), rather than exclamation mark (!)
Well done on the use of the capital letter, however you should have said an English teacher. There is no requirement for a capital letter in the word teacher.
Don't needs the apostrophe again. Moan doesn't require full capitalization and you should leave a space between "me" and the the following open bracket. The exclamation mark at the end of "anyhow" serves as a full stop and the next word should therefore start with a capital letter. You have used a pronoun "i" again. "Bearing in the mind the fact (that) I did not have time". Because not "beacause". "SMUCK" once again doesn't require full capitalisation, however even if you do that for visual effect, the actual word you are looking for is "Schmuck", which is American slang for a foolish or contemptible person.

Capital letter when starting a sentence again ! Comma instead of full stop between "you" and "hence". The letter "a" should be at. Floridian flight schools requires a capital for the proper noun.
Starting a sentence with "and" and even then starting without a capital letter. Secondly not "secoondly". That little "i" again. It seems you have all but given up on the use of punctuation marks. The words are "practices", "these", "their hard earned money", "nonsense", "unhelpful", "as well", "sponsored", "aviation", "ripped off". Start sentences with capital letters and not the word "and".
Start sentences with capital letters. Won`t should be won't. The spelling is "interested", although you clearly are not. The use of the punctuation question mark is the same as a full stop, so the "beacause" should either be misspelt with a capital letter, or spelt "Because". The spelling is "guess". Use punctuation, as the sentence "guess what they are i personally know the Exec Producer" needs either a full stop or a comma after the word "are" and an apostrophe after the abbreviation "Exec". The contaction "who's" requires an apostrophe and the subsequent "is" is unnecessary. The final "intrested" of course should be interested.No, having tried it, I do not want to be an English teacher. Although I am clearly just having a bit of fun with your angry and somewhat delayed riposte, it is rare to see such a poor level of spelling and syntax, in a pilot for whom English is their mother tongue, or is over the age of 11. This is a bulletin board and therefore there is no reason to take particular care with our spelling or use of language. However there are a great many contributors here for whom English is not their mother tongue, and given the many complexities of the language, make a stirling effort in their postings.

The real point was, that if you want to complain about the removal of your declared important thread, at least make some effort to show why it was important, and take less than a week to notice the absence. Still, as you say we "are the weakest link" as you have so ably demonstrated. It is fortunate that you know the executive producer of the television show, as he would probably have considerable difficulty were he to have to rely on written correspondence from you.

Good luck and goodbye.

Jet Driver: Nice one Centurion!:)

GATSY (assuming you are still following this thread): This is not a post from a spoilt “brat”. Like you I went modular – FAA licences and converted to JAA. Mummy and Daddy did not pay for my training: my young family made sacrifices so I could pursue a burning desire to become a professional pilot. So I can appreciate that it must be frustrating to receive what you consider to be negative inputs when all you seek is to highlight a subject close to your heart; however, believe it or not, people are trying to help you prepare for the future.
Attention to detail is vital in professional aviation: you need it to pass the professional flying tests, you need it to produce an impressive C.V. that gets you that elusive interview, you need it to pass the interview, and you definitely need it in commercial flying. It may appear anally retentive to you, but shoddy and somewhat insular posts suggest that the poster would be like that on a flight-deck too – which of course hardly endears them to fellow pilots. Harsh, but true.