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Biz 15th January 2008 18:44

CPL Without JAA PPL Issued?
 
Evening Ladies & Gents.

I find myself in the position of having to pass a JAA PPL skills test to convert my FAA PPL into a JAA PPL (I have in excess of 150hrs and all 14 ATPL's) . While I send the paperwork & logbook off to the CAA for license issue, am I able to begin training for the JAA CPL or do I need to have the licence in my hand so as to speak? Would any body know please? :confused:

BillieBob 15th January 2008 19:18

You don't need a JAA PPL at all, the pre-entry requirement for the modular CPL(A) course is to be the holder of a PPL(A) issued in accordance with ICAO Annex 1 (e.g. an FAA PPL)

BEagle 15th January 2008 20:11

From LASORS2007:

D1.2(A) NOTES

An applicant may be admitted to training as an ab-initio
entrant, or as a holder of a PPL(A) or PPL(H) (excluding
NPPL) issued in accordance with ICAO Annex 1. In the
case of a PPL(A) or PPL(H) entrant, 50% of the aircraft
hours flown by the entrant prior to the course may be
credited towards the required flight instruction up to a
credit of 40 hours flying experience or 45 hours if an
aeroplane night flying qualification has been obtained,
of which up to 20 hours may be dual instruction. This
credit for the hours shall be at the discretion of the FTO
and entered into the applicant’s training record, and is
subject to confirmation by the FTO at the time of
application. In the case of a student pilot who does not
hold a pilot licence and with the approval of the
Authority, a FTO may designate certain dual exercises
(see AMC FCL 1.160 & 1.165(a)(3), phase 2 & 3) to be
flown in a helicopter of a TMG up to a maximum of 20
hours.

ryancy 15th January 2008 22:02

I am also a holder of a FAA PPL and agree to the previous posts.

I chose the modular route of working towards the fATPL.
To my understanding ( referring to LASORS 2007, D1.2(D) )
an ICAO PPL, which the FAA PPL complies with,
is satisfactory to commence an approved course.

So I believe you are allowed to start training.

pilotincommand 15th January 2008 22:06

The section that BEagle quotes is for integrated courses but the underlying message is correct, i.e. you don't need to convert your PPL.


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