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A320 26th March 2002 15:32

Hi Charlitos,. .I think that if you can expend this amount of money in that, do it.But wouldn“t it be better to do the course that ASG-Jet offer?Does anybody know anything aboyt it?I have heard that they are not bad.

LAVDUMP 26th March 2002 22:58

Let's say that you pass the Ryanair interview and go for the training. What is the likelihood that you will actually get hired on to Ryanair on the 737-800? In other words, if you pass the interview and the 737-800 training, will you get an automatic position with Ryanair? . .. .If so, take it and run! Ryanair may eventually become the largest and most financially profitable airline in Europe in the future... Heck, the opportunity to fly a brand new aircraft all around Europe for a growing airline wouldn't be too bad - even if they do work you like DOGS!!!!!. .. .Has anyone out there done this - had this type of success with Ryanair? Do you like flying the 737-800 on the line?. .. .Cheers

Fly_146 27th March 2002 01:02

Sounds good value.. .. .Have you really got $45000 dollars just to burn?!

NO AUTOLAND 27th March 2002 01:55

I also have that amount of money to burn, well let's say to spend, but the chance of getting hired on the -800 after getting the type rating and the 250 hours is not sure. I could also go to the casino and bet a similar sum of money on red or black!

Aeronavigant 27th March 2002 01:59

I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me that the 737-800 NG program with Eagle jet send paying pilots to fly for Ryannair.. .But then again, once you finish your 250 hours will they hire you !!!?

A320 28th March 2002 02:01

In my opinion a pilot that has about 600 TT including 400 hours on a B737-800 and a type rating on it plus a university degree(I know that Charlitos has a uni degree) is the type of pilot that the airlines are looking for.. .If he finally does the type rating + line experience he will has two very good points:. . - A B737-800 type rating + 400 hours on type. . - A University degree.

easondown 28th March 2002 03:26

A320,. .. .I fly the A320 for one of the larger carriers in the UK and know lots of unemployed jet (737/319/320) type rated pilots who have several thousand hours on type, who can't get a job washing an aircraft never mind flying one. To advise a low time pilot to spend 45,000 usd on a type rating and a couple of hundred hours flying is just stupid in this current climate. He should, for instance, buy some cheap multi time in the states and build some hours and experience - or do an instructor rating. There is no quick fix or easy way to get a job at the moment.. .. .A320 how do you know what the airlines are looking for ?

NO AUTOLAND 28th March 2002 04:18

onemorehold. .Charlitos. .. .your advice to Charlitos is very good. I hope he is sensible and will wait until he is absolutely 100% certain that an investment in a type rating and hours will pay off. Never mind all the disputes about PFT. The market is improving for us, but it will still take a while. I have thousands of hours, a JAA ATPL, flying an EFIS aircraft on a permanent contract, but I also do not fly the aircraft I would really like to. I have the money to buy any type rating I want, and hours on top of it, but unless it will guarantee me a job on that particular aircraft, I think it's an extremely risky investment.. .. .Good luck Charlitos!

LAVDUMP 28th March 2002 19:10

No Autoland,. .. .At least you are still flying - that is a positive! Now that you have hooked us in, what type do you fly now and what type would you RATHER be flying? . .. .Best of luck

zukur 30th March 2002 02:04

Beware Charlitos!. .. .A 45000 USD for showing up to work for few hours doesn“t sound sensible to me. But anyway, typerating without line training and few hundred hours on the aircraft is useless. Build up multitime and get your MCC for less money. Wasting 45000 USD in the current climate is crazy, unless you have plenty of $$$.

stator vane 30th March 2002 12:45

wow, 45,000 to burn into aviation. must be a nice situation.. .. .can't say that i would put it into aviation based upon what i have seen in the last 10 years of the industry.. .. .especially on a type rating. quite a gamble, not to mention your medical possibilities.. .. .with that kind of money, you should ask a financial advisor who is not addicted to airplanes for a second opinion.

smartcol 15th April 2002 21:55

Type Rating ... Worth It ???
 
Just wondering if anyone had any advice or ideas to give over the worth of a type rating.

How much do they cost ?

Where is the best place to do them ?

Which aircraft would be best to get rated on ?

Will this really help me in getting a job ?

Thanks,

Airbus A320 16th April 2002 09:32

GECAT at Gatwick are probably the best place to go for a type rating if you are self-sponsoring it. I believe a B737 or A320 type rating comes in at around £14000 plus about an extra £3000 for base training with an actual airline (no job at the end of said base training, mind).

However, there is not much point in spending thousands and thousands of pounds on a type rating at the moment (as I'm sure you will already know) as the industry is flooded with the reminants of Sabena, Swissair, etc.

The best thing to do with regards to type rating would be to apply for the ATP acadamy (there are numerous threads about this place in these pages) as you only have to cough up £6000 while some airline pays the rest and you are guaranteed a trial period with them at the end of it. I know that easyJet and JMC took on many people from here, but as above, places are scarce due to the masses of type rated people already on the market.

smartcol 16th April 2002 20:32

Thanks for the advice, I will consider my options.
What about a rating on a King Air or a Lear Jet, would that be a good idea ???

Go-Around 16th April 2002 21:47

Not unless you've passed all your exams first mate!

MJR 17th April 2002 10:03

I discussed doing a type rating with a rep. from Balpa a while ago. He suggested that the idea of doing a self funded type rating came out in a previous aviation recession, and provided an opportunity for redundant pilots to get a rating on an aircraft which had better employment prospects.

In my own un-qualified opinion getting a type rating without having any previous heavy aircraft experience is a waste of money unless you have an agreement with a potential employer before hand.

Perhaps someone can prove me wrong?

TTFN

The Potter 20th April 2002 20:44

A type rating, with just the obligatory one hour on type, really is not worth the money that you will have to part with. I agree with the other posts on this thread: there are far to many type rated, and the important bit - commercially experienced - guys out there.

I know that it's frustrating & you just want to do anything to get that job, but it would be a damn sight more frustrating if you were still in the same situation but minus £12 - £15k.

Ivan Ivanovich 29th April 2002 08:48

Valid MEP rating for jet type rating?
 
I appreciate that a MEP rating relates to piston aircraft, however since there is no jet equivelant, does the MEP rating need to be valid before undertaking a type conversion? I'm guessing that a specific type rating on say a 737/A320 includes the ME part anyway.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ivan

ElNino 29th April 2002 08:53

According to the IAA (which is now JAA compliant and thus presumably quoting the JAR), a valid MEIR is a requirement for undertaking a type-rating in a ME aircraft.

I take your question to referring to a ME class-rating. Not so sure about the specific requirement to have this, but pocession of an MEIR would mean a valid MEP class rating too? Could be wrong about the last part and would also like to know the definitive answer.

pilotman 2nd May 2002 20:39

Type Rating
 
Hi, I have another question. In Type Rating schools,some of them have computer based ground school, some have traditional ground school.Which one is good?In training, would this make any difference?
Thank You for your answer............


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