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Captain Melly 6th March 2006 19:00

Multiflight Leeds
 
Hi

Sorry if this has been covered before, just wondering if there was anyone out there in CPL/IR land doing their flying lessons with Multiflight at Leeds Bradford? If so, how's it going?

Cheers

CM

:D

YYZ 7th March 2006 16:30

Fine thanks?

Anything more specific...

Captain Melly 7th March 2006 22:39

To YYZ
 
Hi YYZ

Cheers for your reply! I'm considering doing all my flying training there and was wondering what it's like e.g. good teaching, good aircraft etc. You training there? What stage you up to?

Cheers

CM

YYZ 8th March 2006 08:41

I've now finished my CPL/IR, but am doing an FI, the aircraft are good, however the 50 hour check seem to take a further 50 hours? Therefore you can loose a twin for a while, they seem to have addressed this by buying another BE76, and so it should be better now?

The instructors are good, patient & still remember flying should be fun, so the stress is reduced. They know who I am on this forum so I don’t want to big them up too much, their heads won't fit into the planes then:p

Overall, I had a good time spending a large sum of money with Multiflight, and if I had to do it all again, I would still choose them..

PM me if you want specifics on anything.

Good Luck
YYZ

Hollywood316 8th March 2006 09:02

To YYZ
 
Hello mate!

Just a couple of questions. I see you're from the UK and Canada. Did you train in Canada, then convert to JAA. If so, how long did it take you to complete the ground school and flying phases. How did you find the difference between examination standards for the theory exams and flight tests? Im in the situation where i have my Canadian Cpl. I'm currently trying to study for my first module with bristol ground school. Im hoping to do all the ground school in 6 months(Full time distance learning). Is this realistic? But I have no idea how long the flying phase will take. Any help will be much appreciated.

Captain Melly 8th March 2006 14:12

Thanks YYZ, your info is much appreciated!

Couple of questions I'd appreciate your advice on:

1. hope you don't mind me asking but roughly how much should I budget for, to include ground school and flying training? Does £30K sound realistic or is that a bit on the low side? I am going to hour build to 150 hours (currently have just over 100) and get a night rating, and get my distance learning done, then go onto flying training. How did you go about it?

2. do you need to concentrate on the ground school full time ie give up your job?

Cheers for any advice you have!

CM

PS I've got Canadian citizenship and would LOVE to fly over there one day!

YYZ 8th March 2006 18:05

Not Canadian, British, though I go to Canada allot to see family, was there a good few months last year, inc hour building, and I will be going back next month..

Anyway, back to the questions:

Hollywood316, 6 Months is reasonable if you can remain motivated? And you pass all first time (and you're not thick), a resit will knock you back 6 weeks, flying time is subject to the WX, plus if you're converting, I have no idea what your requirements will be?

Captain Melly

I did my ground school with a full time job, took a little over a year Inc re-sits.

30K.. mmm, age old question, the IR generally goes to budget but from my Ltd experience the CPL can go mad without running over to much on the hours, this seemed to be the norm when I trained?

I have put before what it cost me on here somewhere, if I remember correctly it was a little over 40K, which was for everything from start to finish, 3.5 years worth.

Hope that helps a bit?

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

YYZ

MrHorgy 8th March 2006 20:25

I'm at MultiFlight at the moment, i've onyl had a few lessons but the instruction seems excellent. I've already decided to do the rest of my training there - A) Because it's local B) Because there's lots of types of airpace around C) It seems like good value for money.

Aircraft are very well maintained (even if I did take a chip off one := ) - I flew the R200.

Horgy

Northern Highflyer 9th March 2006 13:31

I was happy with the teaching and the course in general at Multiflight. Instructors are all excellent at what they do. The only grumble is you can be sat about a lot due to one or more of :

lots of students at times so you have to wait your turn
planes go tech (don't they all)
planes out quite a long time for checks / repairs
sim unavailable a few days each month due to MCC course
sim unavailable if someone does a renewal
weather - but it is Leeds

There was a good atmosphere between students and instructors when I was there, and that still seems to be the case when I visit.

Would I go there again ??? YES

Captain Melly 27th March 2006 00:50

To everyone
 
Thanks for all your messages, really helpful!

Hope to get to know some of you in person when I'm training there!

Thanks again everyone!

Cheers

CM

:) :)

T3D STRIK3R 27th March 2006 20:25

Lord Flashheart - I also know multiflight. Haven't really heard a good thing about it. I did my PPL out of Leeds Bradford with LFS, nice place to learn.

However if your in the north have you tried Northern Aviation, cracking place and a great CFI.

MrHorgy 27th March 2006 20:27

One hopes the quality of instruction at LFS isn't linked to the Aviation Course they part run at The University of Leeds - i've never seen a more disorganised institution. The idea that the CFI doesn't know what BCF stands for is at best, a joke. :uhoh:

/Personal Opinion
//Defending my Flying School in what is obviously a local Derby :}

Horgy

scroggs 28th March 2006 07:03

Beware, all of you. Post your opinions, by all means, but do not descend into a slanging match. Use of profanities to describe schools is not acceptable. Posting opinions on schools you have no experience of is just plain stupid. You are presumably training to be professionals; try acting like it.

Scroggs

YYZ 28th March 2006 15:06

I have trained at both, and both are good at what they do, however very different atmospheres will be found?
Can make a difference, go to both and have a look around, see where you feel your face fits.

YYZ

combineharvester 28th March 2006 16:04

Probably have a little more experience of LFS than Multiflight, although MF did excellent takeaway sandwiches!

If you went to either the large consideration in LBA itself!
Runway 27/09 now closed thus restricting circuit traffic and possibly increasing the time you are held on the ground or in the air.
Leeds is on top of a large hill. There are lots of bad weather looking out of the window days. Its up to you if you decide to want to be in a portakabin or a double glazed office!

i'd like to extend the debate to:

Murgatroyd's or The fountain chip shop. down the road from LBA. One is a very large restaraunt with acceptable and pleasant food in nice packaging.
The other is a good old fashioned greasy chippy with excellent food, slightly cheaper.

Draw from that statement what you will

Proper Job

READY MESSAGE 28th March 2006 17:30

Cracking post combineharvester! The chip shop analogy is very good. I went to LFS rather than MF, why? The book price for the IR was roughly the same but when you looked at it, at LFS you did 25 hours in the sim/25 aircraft where as MF was 35 hours sim/15 aircraft - 10 extra hours in the aircraft and a more friendly atmosphere did it for me. Shame my old instructor isn't there any more. Don't be drawn in by expensive marketing & glossy brochures......

MrHorgy 28th March 2006 19:21

Ahh apologies scroggs, meant it light hearted.

Was just slightly disorganised with the Uni course - any grads on here care to share insight on year 2 and 3?

Oh, and Murgy's rules! :}

Horgy

fray bentos pielot 28th March 2006 21:18

Ah, Mr Horgy, i believe we've spoken before. I was interested to read what you were saying about the aviaition degree at Leeds again. Obviously you'd know a lot about it, especially the flying side of things, after dropping out after first year. Or how did i put it previously, oh yes, being asked to leave. Ah well mate, a degree doesn't mean as much as it used to if it helps.

When i was there LFS had it sorted with the PPL stuff. Excellent set up, wicked summer learning to fly along side a useful and interesting degree course.

LFS are worth a look. Turst everyone there is well.

MrHorgy 28th March 2006 21:30


Originally Posted by fray bentos pielot
Ah, Mr Horgy, i believe we've spoken before. I was interested to read what you were saying about the aviaition degree at Leeds again. Obviously you'd know a lot about it, especially the flying side of things, after dropping out after first year. Or how did i put it previously, oh yes, being asked to leave. Ah well mate, a degree doesn't mean as much as it used to if it helps.

Spoken before? Perhaps if i knew your name I would be able to verify that - but thanks for your constructive comments. Should you wish to comment on why I voluntarily left the University i'm happy to discuss it over PM, and not on a public forum - a place where comments about my private life are at best, unwelcome.

If you care to re read my post you'll notice I did not actually comment about the quality of instruction - I summised that judging by the classroom lectures they couldn't really be that great. I accept that it is based on one or two instructors, but I stand by what i experienced - I don't pay over £1,000 in fees a year to read a powerpoint presentation off a board. That money I saved was diverted towards flying with Multiflight, and I can honestly say was money well spent.

As it happens, I'm now happily employed with a charter airline at Manchester Airport - turns out a degree doesn't mean that much after all.

Hope your having fun with your dissertation! :ok:

Horgy

fray bentos pielot 28th March 2006 21:48

When you say employed with an airline at Manchester, do you mean as a pilot?

If i had stayed in Leeds i would have trained with LFS not MF but that is just personal opinion. I've only looked around MF once and thought it looked lovely, i thought a lot of other things too but this is not the time or the place for opinions apparently.

Facts we are allowed to do though, so i'd just say both schools are worth looking at. Don't rule LFS out because it's off site or not quite as shinny as MF. Talk to students and instructors and see where you like the feel of.


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