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milad 19th Jan 2003 02:07

Different licenses??
 
Hi!

Have some q's about licenses. Comair offers this package for European students that is JAA licenses.

PPL
Night Qualification
Hours building
ATPL theory
CPL
Multi class rating
Flight instructor
Multi-engine instrument rating
Multi-instrument rating completion
MCC

Do I really have to take all these courses to be a commercial pilot? Is this the standard at all flight schools? The total price for the above is approx. $55000. What course are mandatory and what courses is not needed to be hired by an airline? Anyone knows? Thanks!

/Milad Yazdi

FRIDAY 19th Jan 2003 05:23

Yep, with the exception of the instructor rating you are eleigible for airlines with all those courses, it sounds worse then it is.

PPL/night/ and hour build is great fun.
Atpl ground school, hard studying.
Multi engine rating with your commercial license followed by Instrument rating.
And finally your mcc certificate which is also required.
Remember you cannot do the full IR in Sanford you must finish it in the UK.

Good luck

milad 19th Jan 2003 09:50

Ok thanks! What is the difference between the multi class rating, multi-engine instrument rating and multi-instrument rating completion? Thanks!

/Milad Yazdi

foghorn 19th Jan 2003 12:59

The 'Multi class rating' (officially known as the Multi-Engine Piston Landplanes or MEP class rating) is the basic qualification to fly multi-engine aircraft. It is valid for all multi-engine piston types weighing less that 5,700kg, with a few exceptions (certain bigger/more complex types, and seaplanes).

The 'Multi-engine instrument rating' (Instrument Rating Single Pilot Aeroplanes Multi-Engine or IR-SPA-ME in JAR-ese , often known as the 'ME-IR' or 'multi-IR'), allows you to fly multi-engine aircraft in meteorological conditions worse than those permissible for flight according to Visual Flight Rules, and in airspace that requires flight according to Instrument Flight Rules. As its name suggests it is valid for all single pilot multi-engine types, it is also valid in all single pilot single-engine types.

As for the 'Multi-instrument rating completion' - maybe the school breaks its ME-IR course into two modules (maybe sim and aircraft), and is quoting both seperately here?

As has been said, the instructor rating isn't necessary for an airline job, but is necessary if you are going to follow the instructor route into the industry.

cheers!
foggy

Tinstaafl 19th Jan 2003 14:11

I think the 'completion' bit is to do with the portion that must be done in a JAR country ie the UK.

As for the question about "...do I need all these things?"

A flying instructor rating isn't 'needed' in the sense of 'Is it a mandatory qualification to be hired by an airline'.

HOWEVER, the catch is that it is very rare to be hired by an airline with minimal experience. A FI rating is often used as the pathway to gain a more 'hire-able' experience level. In that sense, yes, it is needed UNLESS you have an alternate way of gaining those precious hours.

Student pilots must understand that the qualification you gain is an ENTRY LEVEL ticket ie it is the bare minimum qualification that would allow entry into the job. It is not some sort of guarantee.


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