Am I going to get a job
 

I'm looking to start training soon for my ATPL, so I think I will be finished in about one and a half years. How likely is it that I will get a job at the end? Will I have to pay for anything else, like type rating or hour build ups.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

Don't know if you will get a job or not.

What I can tell you is this. If you haven't got the licence and a job is advertised, you won't even be considered for it.

On average it's about 2 years after someone has completed their training before they get a job, could be longer in your case due to the market being in a bad state. Once you complete your training do a instructor course to build up your hours, you will be in a much better position when the market picks up and the regional airline pilots join the likes of Britannia etc. you will then look like a good prospect for the regional airlines when it comes to replacing the guys who just left them.

paying more : probably, starting with a wizard to get you a job as a low-time wannabe and predict of what the future is made.

Advice Tom (my opinion only)
 

Tom,

You stated yesterday that you are only 17. I think you will struggle to land a job.

Give yourself a chance. Get a normal job for a little while. Save money and get worldly wise. If you train now, you have little chance. You will still only be about 19, and that IS YOUNG for a flying job with an airline.

It does happen, however not too often!

Also, in a couple of years youe will have been able to assess the market better. Maybe even apply for BA or Britannia sponsorships etc!!!

The two or three lost years of not flying will stand you in good stead. You will have a checkable background and some life experience. Rather than just saying Mummy and Daddy paid........you will be able to tell your own stories of experience.

It will do you know you no harm at all.

My opinion only.

Tom,

You can hold a CPL (A) at the age of 18 but cant hold an ATPL(A) until you are 21, so the advice about waiting, getting some life experience etc...would appear to be not only good sound advice but in your case mandatory!

Keep up the enthusiasm tho!

Cheers

TBL:D

i didnt know you had to be 21 before you could hold an ATPL

Im 16 and training part time, will continue to do so thorugh college, and if there is no jobs in this country when I get the cpl/ir frz atpl (thats when Im 19/20), i will have to consider working abroad, probably in my home country to build hours. Two pilots working for a very decent airline back home (in bangladesh where i come from)
told my dad ( he met by absolute conincidence in his office, they were on holiday) that their airline is actually looking for pilots with bangladeshi background but has trained abroad and has very good english...now that fits me perfectly :D

but hopefully, Ill get the perfect job in the UK :)

lets just hope bush doesnt strike Iraq :(

oh and tom_higginson,

if ur really 17, why dont you do your A-Levels or some other course in college (im asuming ur streight out from school), you really want something to fall back on. Nothing is guranteed.

best of luck.

TBL

Are you sure about the age restrictions on liecences? I have talk to a few flying schools and told them my age and they have not said anything.


Pilot16

I have done A-Levels.

Tom,

TBL is correct:

PPL - 17 yrs
CPL - 18 yrs
ATPL - 21 yrs

Thanks Crosswind limits,

Now I may well be digging myself a hole here but here goes:

With a CPL you can be PIC in a single crew commercial aircraft and pilot non handling on a two crew commercial aircraft but never PIC (ie non handling co-pilot)

I hope I'm right otherwise all that Air Law study really has gone to waste.

Time is on your side, use it wisely. I remember when my Father told me something similar when I was fresh out of school, unfortunately my version of wisely was to spend the next 5 years staring at the bottom of a pint pot and not much else, not something that you really want to put on your CV!!!

Good luck mate, keep up your enthusiasm, everything comes to those who wait!

TBL:D

Re: Am I going to get a job
 

try looking at Comair for their JAA 0 - ATPL course + job possibilities afterwards.

TBL
Just to clarify one issue. The Co-Pilot is not necessarily a non handling position. But you aren't allowed to log PIC with a CPL. The Co-pilot may well be handling pilot as P1 U/S.

The CPL merely means, if the mud comes through the windscreen you will be second in line to answer questions.

Thanks Plastic Cocpit,

I was going from a fading memory so thanks for clarifying that.

Cheers

TBL