Am I right in hearing on the call yesterday that anyone who has passed an ATPL exam is not eligible to apply?
|
Originally Posted by Arena_33
(Post 11489987)
Am I right in hearing on the call yesterday that anyone who has passed an ATPL exam is not eligible to apply?
|
Originally Posted by Sagarpatelatpl
(Post 11489934)
Hi DawnChrus01,
You have not missed anything if you have attended the first session on 09 August. However, now there are 70 places instead of 60. Which is good. The recruiters have not confirmed eligibility queries related to non-UK citizens or permanent residents. Additionally, you can not live at your home while under training as BA will have paid the cost of accommodation and food to the chosen flight school. Besides, if you have previous flying experience, then the Head of the Flight Training School will decide on how much reduction in flight training will be allowed. I hope this helps you and other on the forum. |
They’re working on it - complexities of immigration law given you won’t be employed during training.
|
Originally Posted by PilotDoctor
(Post 11490056)
Thank you for the information i also could not attend the meeting. Is anybody there asked about non-UK citizen requirements? did they say we are working on it or?
Unfortunately not. They are still debating internally with their employer law team and immigration team to finalise on the eligibility criteria for candidates. My best guess is that non-UK Citizens may not be allowed to apply as UK Home Office Immigration Rules want to restrict people from outside the UK to come and work for a UK company. It is political! General elections are within a year's time and British people want their fair share of employment and politicians want to please as many local people as they can. (i.e., classic politics) I am not sure if this helps. |
Preparation
Originally Posted by Pablopal
(Post 11482056)
Some key points included:
Selection:
I echo what others have asked -- does anyone have any suggestions for how to best prepare for the assessment? Any recommended aptitude test sites or training modules that are not just a cash-grab? |
Originally Posted by Sagarpatelatpl
(Post 11490473)
Hi PilotDoctor,
Unfortunately not. They are still debating internally with their employer law team and immigration team to finalise on the eligibility criteria for candidates. My best guess is that non-UK Citizens may not be allowed to apply as UK Home Office Immigration Rules want to restrict people from outside the UK to come and work for a UK company. It is political! General elections are within a year's time and British people want their fair share of employment and politicians want to please as many local people as they can. (i.e., classic politics) I am not sure if this helps. |
On this Teams call, was it mentioned how the salary changes with time? And how do they decide who goes to mainline, Euroflyer, Cityflyer after completion of training? As the T's and C's are different at each one...
|
Originally Posted by Lawrence2725
(Post 11492404)
On this Teams call, was it mentioned how the salary changes with time? And how do they decide who goes to mainline, Euroflyer, Cityflyer after completion of training? As the T's and C's are different at each one...
i have also heard rumours from BA people that they are going to open applications first for internals only then externals can apply. On the bright side they have increased the intake from 60 to 70. I’m just hopping they open the applications on the 1st of September, the sooner the better! |
Does anyone know how long the application window will be open for ?
|
Originally Posted by icedchailatte
(Post 11493769)
Does anyone know how long the application window will be open for ?
September - Applications open October - Online Tests and Online Interview November - BA assessment Waterside / Offer |
Originally Posted by Angle_of_Attack
(Post 11490016)
Correct, they require first-time passes so technically it would be considered a second pass as you'd have to re-do them regardless.
I think I heard them say if you do have a PPL you are still eligible to apply but I’m not so sure now! |
Originally Posted by Arena_33
(Post 11489987)
Am I right in hearing on the call yesterday that anyone who has passed an ATPL exam is not eligible to apply?
Most other cadet schemes will consider an applicant who have some ATPLs under their belt. Especially if passed first time. |
Originally Posted by FuturePilot_123
(Post 11494430)
Surely this can’t be true? An applicant that’s already passed some ATPL exams is surely the reassurance they are looking for.
Most other cadet schemes will consider an applicant who has some ATPLs under their belt. they are looking for people with literally 0 flying experience under their belt, I don’t know why! |
Originally Posted by Nino24
(Post 11494432)
unfortunately this is true, I was on the live call which they have stated anyone that has over certain amount of flying hours PPL / any who already has ATPL modules are deemed as over qualified.
they are looking for people with literally 0 flying experience under their belt, I don’t know why! I literally bank on these opportunities. I see them as a golden ticket to the flight deck. I am quite surprised as most cadet schemes allow some ATPL exams. A lot of good pilots will fall between the cracks here if this is the case. I imagined that having some ATPLs under your belt would reassure BA that you are competent in the most difficult part of the whole course, as most will know - the ATPLs require a lot of hard work and dedication. |
Originally Posted by FuturePilot_123
(Post 11494438)
this is a real shame. I’m a few years in to my modular journey, and I dedicate almost every minute of my spare time (alongside a full time job) to get as much done as I can to fulfil my dream.
I literally bank on these opportunities. I see them as a golden ticket to the flight deck. I am quite surprised as most cadet schemes allow some ATPL exams. A lot of good pilots will fall between the cracks here if this is the case. I imagined that having some ATPLs under your belt would reassure BA that you are competent in the most difficult part of the whole course, as most will know - the ATPLs require a lot of hard work and dedication. 100% agree with you, I heard Aer Lingus cadet scheme take on candidates with some ATPL modules also check out TUI later in the year! |
Originally Posted by Nino24
(Post 11494432)
unfortunately this is true, I was on the live call which they have stated anyone that has over certain amount of flying hours PPL / any who already has ATPL modules are deemed as over qualified.
they are looking for people with literally 0 flying experience under their belt, I don’t know why! It's not a question of being "over qualified" and they never mentioned anything about having a maximum number of allowable PPL hours. They stressed that you aren't at a disadvantage if you haven't done PPL, although they recommended doing at least a taster flight if you had never had that experience before. |
Originally Posted by FuturePilot_123
(Post 11494438)
this is a real shame. I’m a few years in to my modular journey, and I dedicate almost every minute of my spare time (alongside a full time job) to get as much done as I can to fulfil my dream.
I literally bank on these opportunities. I see them as a golden ticket to the flight deck. I am quite surprised as most cadet schemes allow some ATPL exams. A lot of good pilots will fall between the cracks here if this is the case. I imagined that having some ATPLs under your belt would reassure BA that you are competent in the most difficult part of the whole course, as most will know - the ATPLs require a lot of hard work and dedication. You either go the Modular route, generally the better route anyway, or hold out for one of these schemes, you can’t do both. |
Originally Posted by VariablePitchP
(Post 11494554)
It has always been the case. It can get real fiddly if you’ve already had sittings. I’d suggest you’re perhaps mistaken by the type of cadet programmes on offer if they accept ATPL attempts. Big difference between a cadet programme and just getting a type rating somewhere.
You either go the Modular route, generally the better route anyway, or hold out for one of these schemes, you can’t do both. |
What if you’ve got all ATPL examinations complete in one series? First time passes? With an average above 85%.
The reason I’m questioning this, is because having ATPLs is still a fair distance away from having the requirements to apply for their other future pilot programmes. I will still struggle to find the funding to complete a CPL ME IR? And an UPRT? If I didn’t have a full time occupation I could clear my remaining ATPL exams in few months. |
All times are GMT. The time now is 14:19. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.