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AriPerriProw 14th Aug 2023 19:20

Yeah all fine - just no calculators :)

H2O2007 23rd Sep 2023 17:00

MPL Captain?
 
Hello following this thread with a lot of interest, have some questions:
does an MPL reach Captain in Easyjet MPL program?
after 1500 hours you’ll get a ATPL? Can you change to another airline or they don’t like this type of licence coming from a MPL program?
many thanks

bombaydude 25th Sep 2023 19:05

Can someone tell me what salary easyjet cadet gets on completion of line training?
many thanks!

rudestuff 25th Sep 2023 19:53


Originally Posted by H2O2007 (Post 11507793)
Hello following this thread with a lot of interest, have some questions:
does an MPL reach Captain in Easyjet MPL program?
after 1500 hours you’ll get a ATPL? Can you change to another airline or they don’t like this type of licence coming from a MPL program?
many thanks

An MPL is basically a CPL/IR but limited to multi pilot aircraft. After 1500 hours you can take an ATPL skill test to get an ATPL just like a CPL/IR holder can. Since an ATPL is a multi crew only licence - the only difference is your ATPL will not give you CPL or PPL single pilot privileges - you can only fly as a crew. In the airline world that doesn't matter. If you move airlines with an ATPL and time on type they probably won't give a **** whether you're integrated, modular, MPL or what your ATPL results were, all they care about is time on type.
Getting the licence is quite easy - actually getting promoted to captain is another matter and usually involves getting 3000+ hours, good sim scores and passing a command assessment, course and line training.

H2O2007 25th Sep 2023 20:20


Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11509008)
An MPL is basically a CPL/IR but limited to multi pilot aircraft. After 1500 hours you can take an ATPL skill test to get an ATPL just like a CPL/IR holder can. Since an ATPL is a multi crew only licence - the only difference is your ATPL will not give you CPL or PPL single pilot privileges - you can only fly as a crew. In the airline world that doesn't matter. If you move airlines with an ATPL and time on type they probably won't give a **** whether you're integrated, modular, MPL or what your ATPL results were, all they care about is time on type.
Getting the licence is quite easy - actually getting promoted to captain is another matter and usually involves getting 3000+ hours, good sim scores and passing a command assessment, course and line training.


The issue is “probably won't give a ****” it’s not totally guaranteed, If one wish to go longhaul MPL Easyjet might be risky….or not?

rudestuff 26th Sep 2023 05:55

Ok I'll go further. Definitely won't give a ****. Exams results and training schools only matter to your first employer, because they have nothing else to go on.

H2O2007 26th Sep 2023 12:41


Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 11509189)
Ok I'll go further. Definitely won't give a ****. Exams results and training schools only matter to your first employer, because they have nothing else to go on.

Ok thanks

KJBCFC 27th Jan 2024 18:52

Hi AriPerriProw, I'm new to pprune so I couldn't message you directly. I have a start date in June this year '24 in LGW for the easyJet pilot cadet program. I'd be really keen to get some up to date experience/opinion and just a general chat about how the course is going for you and what to expect. If you can spare the time it would be great to hear from you. Thanks, KJBCFC. (Not sure if I can post my personal email on here , so I wont at the moment! KJBCFC )

sbimpl 29th Jan 2024 06:01

Well done for getting a place but sorry to bring bad news....all the negative feedback on here is still true. CAE are a mess. Several MPL courses now finished ground school with no idea what happens next. As you read before, a course in Phoenix got send back to UK. Absolutely no communication from CAE. They offered whitetail cadets money to leave the course. I doubt youll find a single CAE cadet happy with the way things are going. I really hope CAE can sort out the mess and maybe they will by the time you finish groundschool but this has been going on for months and there is little sign of it improving so far. if you have other options, take them and finish training quicker. If you have specific questions feel free to ask.

MANFLX 16th Feb 2024 11:32


Originally Posted by sbimpl (Post 11585581)
Well done for getting a place but sorry to bring bad news....all the negative feedback on here is still true. CAE are a mess. Several MPL courses now finished ground school with no idea what happens next. As you read before, a course in Phoenix got send back to UK. Absolutely no communication from CAE. They offered whitetail cadets money to leave the course. I doubt youll find a single CAE cadet happy with the way things are going. I really hope CAE can sort out the mess and maybe they will by the time you finish groundschool but this has been going on for months and there is little sign of it improving so far. if you have other options, take them and finish training quicker. If you have specific questions feel free to ask.

Thank you for sharing your insight. I find myself in a similar situation and want to make sure I make an informed decision, especially considering the money involved. I appreciate that your post is recent. However, I am curious to know if CAE is taking any steps to address this situation, or if there are no signs of improvement yet? Also, I am wondering if this issue is specific to easyJet MPL cadets or if it is a general issue affecting whitetail cadets as well? Thank you.

Triton0206 24th Feb 2024 19:17


Originally Posted by MANFLX (Post 11598455)
Thank you for sharing your insight. I find myself in a similar situation and want to make sure I make an informed decision, especially considering the money involved. I appreciate that your post is recent. However, I am curious to know if CAE is taking any steps to address this situation, or if there are no signs of improvement yet? Also, I am wondering if this issue is specific to easyJet MPL cadets or if it is a general issue affecting whitetail cadets as well? Thank you.

I have just passed stage 3 this week. I am hoping to have a phone call with the enrollment team and believe me, I will be asking plenty of questions regarding delays and their efforts or plans to reduce them. The current intake year will end in July, this is done to avoid pilot enrollments during peak summer months (courses take between 20-24 months), so the next intake year will start from October onwards which I am planning to start on. I am hoping these few months during the summer will allow for CAE to reduce the backlog of finished ground school cadets to begin their flying in Pheonix, and therefore reduce the delays for next intake year cadets..

I will respond to this comment after the call or if I get any updates. There is a thread on Reddit regarding this matter, just type in "Generation easyJet MPL" and it should be the most recent post. If anyone else has information please share as this will aid in my decision on actually accepting my offer with this course. Also if anyone would like tips or advice for the selection process just ask!

sbimpl 26th Feb 2024 05:31

Its difficult to know whether CAE will reduce the backlog because communication is so poor. They are apparently opening a new training base for some MPLs in Spain. Whitetail ATPLs still go to Phoenix. So far there is no reduction in delays.

One thing for sure is to take anything the sales people tell you with a large pinch of salt. Nothing in CAE is joined up, so sales will tell you one thing to get you to sign when other parts of the company will do or say something completely different. How sales people will know what's going on when no one actually involved in delivering training knows.

marf0103 6th Mar 2024 10:51

@triton0206 Do you have any news or updates? I have passed the ATPL Integrated Course successfully last week and wanted to make sure that I know what I am applying for before signing any contract. Does anyone have a recent experience with CAE and can comment on the current situation? I would be especially interested in experiences of ATPL Integrated students at Madrid or Brussels. What is the experience like currently? Having read some very negative reviews lately, I am very alarmed and want to make sure that I don't make a mistake accepting the offer for the ATPL Integrated course at CAE.


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