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Maverick97 12th Apr 2023 15:46

UK and EASA PPL
 
Good Afternoon,

Looking at options to save costs associated with Hour Building towards CPL.
One way would be flying in Europe but need an EASA licence to to take advantage of this.

Is it possible to hold a dual UKCAA PPL and EASA PPL? If so what are the hurdles one needs to jump through and what authority is best to go with?

Even better… is it possible to have a temporary validation to fly EASA aircraft like you can in the states?

I'm not interested in obtaining EASA CPL/ ME-IR at this point as I'm already most of the way through the UK ATPL exams.

(EDIT:Moved from Private Flying)

Central Scrutinizer 12th Apr 2023 16:01


Originally Posted by Maverick97 (Post 11418822)
Is it possible to hold a dual UKCAA PPL and EASA PPL?

Yes.


Originally Posted by Maverick97 (Post 11418822)
If so what are the hurdles one needs to jump through and what authority is best to go with?

This may answer the first part of your question:

I am holder of a UK issued Part-FCL PPL licence, with a valid UK-issued class 2 medical certificate. Can I fly an aircraft registered in one of the EASA Member States after December 31, 2020 on this basis?Your UK-issued pilot licence and medical certificate are considered as a third-country licence and certificate as of January 01, 2021 and thus they are no longer recognised for flying an aircraft registered in an EASA Member State as of that date. In this case, you may consider temporarily validating your UK license or converting it into an EU Part-FCL license according to Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2020/723.
Source: https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/the-ag...)%202020%2F723.

As for which authority is "best", some generally considered as competent and easy to work with authorities are Austria, Denmark and Ireland. Some generally considered as "avoid" authorities are Spain, Italy, France, Germany.


Originally Posted by Maverick97 (Post 11418822)
Even better… is it possible to have a temporary validation to fly EASA aircraft like you can in the states?

Check this:
COMMISSION DELEGATED REGULATION (EU) 2020/723
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...0R0723&from=EN

As far as I know, a UK-issued PPL is treated as a "third country" from EASA's point of view. I don't know if there have been any special provisions implemented specifically for UK-issued licences but if not the link above should describe what you need to do.



Maverick97 13th Apr 2023 07:48

Thanks for the reply CS.

I looked on EASA's FAQ's but couldn't pinpoint exactly where I needed to be so I'll have a read up on this.


selfin 13th Apr 2023 14:25

The easiest validation is that described in art 8(3) in the delegated act. Not all EASA MS offer this validation which is limited to flying on any of 28 days in a calendar year. It requires acclimatisation (training) with an EASA FI/CRI. The validation will be limited to aircraft registered in the issuing country but you may fly the aircraft internationally pursuant to the Chicago Convention.


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