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backtothebeat 19th Feb 2022 09:03

MCC/JOC AUPRT training UK licence - can i train in EASA..?
 
Hello..

Can anyone please point me in the direction of some up to date information..?
I need to get MCC/JOC UPRT done as soon as possible ideally, but I need to know if i can use the EASA ATO in Poland where i did my commercial training last year. (for my UK licence)
The school can do the MCC/JOC but not the uprt, but has questioned if the UKCAA would recognise the training. ]
So I will be having a lengthy phonecall on monday to Gatwick, but I'd like to be armed with some knowledge..!
Any pointers to some written material greatly appreciated or indeed any recent experience.

Cheers

Reverserbucket 20th Feb 2022 10:51

Why go to the trouble of calling Gatwick when you could check the CAA website? The Brexit microsite will direct you to archived information published last year which describes UK recognition of EASA training with certain provisos, including tests, checks and assessments by EASA Instructors and Examiners, as well as FSTD qualification from 1st January 2021.You will bear responsibility for assuring the MCCI's acceptability for example, so suggest a call back to the ATO might be more useful.

Contact Approach 20th Feb 2022 13:52

Save yourself the headache and do it in the U.K.

parkfell 20th Feb 2022 14:10

Do the UPRT first, then the MCC/APS course.
In other words, complete your light ac flying before moving onto 2 crew which will also cover unusual attitude recovery. The techniques for recovery aren’t necessarily the same. Straight line thrust v. Engine Pods.

Rivet gun 26th Feb 2022 21:58


Originally Posted by parkfell (Post 11187083)
The techniques for recovery aren’t necessarily the same. Straight line thrust v. Engine Pods.

According to AMC1 FCL.745.A the AUPRT course should:

"(3) employ recovery techniques that are suitable for the aircraft used for training in order to support the training objectives. In order to minimise the risk associated with potential negative transfer of training, the recovery techniques used during the course should be compatible with techniques typically used for transport category aeroplanes."

This of cause assumes you have chosen a UPRT instructor who has a good knowledge of techniques typically used for transport category aeroplanes.

Capt Pit Bull 10th Mar 2022 12:39


Originally Posted by Rivet gun (Post 11191181)
According to AMC1 FCL.745.A the AUPRT course should:

"(3) employ recovery techniques that are suitable for the aircraft used for training in order to support the training objectives. In order to minimise the risk associated with potential negative transfer of training, the recovery techniques used during the course should be compatible with techniques typically used for transport category aeroplanes."

This of cause assumes you have chosen a UPRT instructor who has a good knowledge of techniques typically used for transport category aeroplanes.

ah, that’s reassuring then. The regulators have decreed that a negative training transfer won’t happen. I feel safer already.


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