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mothergoose1 21st May 2019 23:51

Fastest way to pass ATPL
 
HELLO GUYS,i want to pass atpl as fast as possible,but not without understanding the questions either
I just want to pass it with need to know answers only rather than good to know.Any advice would be highly appreciated and mind you i touched CPL/IR long way back in 2006 ,at that time they didnt have these 8 subjects of atpl.PLEASE ADVICE,thanks.I also see alot of youtube videos of atpl.How should i go about it,

Daddy Fantastic 22nd May 2019 00:46

You should probably give up flying!!

mothergoose1 22nd May 2019 01:20

yeah i will but not so soon

paco 22nd May 2019 06:11

There are 14 subjects. Unless you have multicrew PIC and can self-certify you will also need a school to sign you off.

popo_von_kox 22nd May 2019 07:04

Ever considered studying?

flugas 22nd May 2019 12:24

This guy did it in 72 days, but he had been flying for several years and held an instrument rating.

EASA ATPL Theory Knowledge in 72 days ? and 9 years ? Abeam

KT1988 22nd May 2019 12:43

Well the fastest way got to be changing EASA to FAA in USA. Then you will not have to do the European ATPL(A) theory if it is such a big problem. Europe is Europe so we learn the stuff and pass it, its no free choice of exams. If you do not like it move to where stuff is like you wish it to be.

PS. Not that I do not believe the US idea that 1500 hours flying will make you a better pilot that 200 hours flying and 1500 hours extra on theory.

mothergoose1 22nd May 2019 13:48

Hey buddy youre awesome.this is what i needed ,i havent even read through this but looks like a plan,i highly appreciate your posting this.Actually where i reside they dont update the QB so people just memorise all the answers and some even say they give all atpl papers in one month.Honestly,I dont see the truth in that.How can a certain person do those specific math questions.Ok,let me read this whole through.It seems like aviation exam is the website to use for as BGS is very expensive on self learning.I just dont know whether those youtube videos are helpful or should i give them a try .They seem really nice.Heres a link.Are they oxford atpl material,do you know the source
.Shall i try these before every topic and than jump on QB

flugas 22nd May 2019 17:01


Originally Posted by mothergoose1 (Post 10477171)
Hey buddy youre awesome.this is what i needed ,i havent even read through this but looks like a plan,i highly appreciate your posting this.Actually where i reside they dont update the QB so people just memorise all the answers and some even say they give all atpl papers in one month.Honestly,I dont see the truth in that.How can a certain person do those specific math questions.Ok,let me read this whole through.It seems like aviation exam is the website to use for as BGS is very expensive on self learning.I just dont know whether those youtube videos are helpful or should i give them a try .They seem really nice.Heres a link.Are they oxford atpl material,do you know the sourcehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVXR...gXgwMilCAeWNXY.Shall i try these before every topic and than jump on QB

I myself watched all those old ATPL YouTube videos and whenever sth wasn't clear, I had a few e-books on the relevant topics. Of course Wikipedia and Skybrary.aero are always your friend. Only once I believed that I had sort of understood the subject I was studying, I used Aviation Exam. That worked well for me, but that was hard work.

blind pew 23rd May 2019 05:56

FAA the way to go
 
In the 90s I decided I needed another string to my bow.. Got the FAA question and answer book airfreighted over to Europe.. read it twice. Flew to Las Vegas, started my twin training and asked about flight planning fuel calculations which I didn't understand..easy learn the answers ..only 7 for your part..three days after arriving I flew to Phoenix took the test..96%- pass 70%.eight days after arriving in Vegas I passed my FAA check ride.
word of warning..in those days the book covered ATPL jets..Atpl prop..choppers and flight dispatcher..the last three categories not needed.
Standard much lower than UK mid 70s

Hawker400 24th May 2019 08:46

If you read lots of notes, watch a bunch of videos, and do loads of questions from the question bank. You can recall all of this information when taking the exam straight from your mind. It's literally legal cheating mate. The CAA won't know that to do.

popo_von_kox 24th May 2019 11:29

^He is right. If you memorize something before an exam, then you are legally allowed to recall it during. Even whole ATPL books.

dboy 24th May 2019 15:06

Tbh, why does it have to go fast? Nowadays everything needs to go fast at the expense of quality. Dont forget if you go to an interview later on, they will ask you questions about the theoretical stuff!! If you get the job and are flying the aircraft, it is nice to know that eg your EGT is increasing due to an engine stall or becausing the increasing demand of bleed air. Etc

Really, take your books, read, study and mostly........ENJOY.

Shaft109 24th May 2019 16:38

I managed to scrape a 94% pass ratio by just wasting time after work too for months and months.....

Seriously mate it's one thing to get the exams out of the way quickly but another totally to simply memory dump without understanding anything then expect to hold professional position.

When I did my twin rating MEP my instructor would ask - gasp - questions related to the theory and expect me to link it to practice as light twins can be killers if you treat them casually.

FWIW my ATPL goal was 80/20 - study the subjects well enough to actually understand the subjects and recognise the padding that is of no use to be discarded.
Then I'd spend my lunch hour in the car at work with the BGS folders and actually this proved to be my most productive time for learning.

Once home I'd have tea and a brew then start studying without a time limit until I recognised my mind had stopped absorbing say 90 mins.

Brew time

Then start again and repeat until my mind flagged out.

Continue this cycle until I passed everything first time in 18 months working full time with days built in for other stuff to rest my mind.

They aren't difficult but are time consuming for a reason.......




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