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At ezy yes, £43000/12 gives you your basic. There might be one or two extras such as night stops, working into a day off payment etc but not much in variable pay.
Once "upgraded" to fo your salary will be 51000/12, plus your sector pay which will be variable between the seasons. Slightly more in summer than winter but rarely the same every month.

Airline EasyJet
Year 1 40K (Flexicrew)
year 2 72k (1500Hrs SFO)
year 3 72k
year 4 72K
year 5 130K (Captain)
All figures Gross. Times change, I couldnt tell you the what the contracts are now.

lowest salary i have seen is flight instructor at about 12k if salaried or if under self employed £20 an hr only get paid in the air so basically lunch and petrol money!

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Originally Posted by Captain Spam Can (Post 10210259)

Airline EasyJet
Year 1 40K (Flexicrew)
year 2 72k (1500Hrs SFO)
year 3 72k
year 4 72K
year 5 130K (Captain)
All figures Gross. Times change, I couldnt tell you the what the contracts are now.

I'm sorry but this isn't correct. Not by a long chalk.
These days it is:
Yr 1SO 43,000
Yr 2SO 43,000
Yr 3fo at 75%, yes you guessed it, about 43,000
100% ~55,000

2 years minimum as an FO before upgrade to SFO. This is for cadet/low hours entry route.

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Originally Posted by Thegreenmachine (Post 10210351)

I'm sorry but it is correct when I did it! Like I said times change, the contracts have except SFO and CPT. Im not getting into a pointless debate but what remains true and unchanged is year 1 circa 40K and year 4-5 if you get command is £130k. So your only going to get 50K for years 2-3....come on man you could have 30 years in this career.

Thanks very much for that confirmation, Thegreenmachine! Knowing that there's at least a basic salary regardless of time in the air is quite reassuring. For some reason, I had the impression that it was feast or famine... or rather feast (summer) then famine (winter) in terms of pay for pilots.

While I don't really target flight instructing as a career option, I wouldn't mind doing it on days off even for £20/hr and only paid during flight time. It's more hours in the air and it's sharing aviation with others!

I've seen flexicrew mentioned a few times, can anyone clarify what that is exactly? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by BaronVonBarnstormer (Post 10207868)

Wow what a childish thing to say. If that's true then easyJet, Flybe, BA, Virgin and every other Arline that has ever run an integrated scheme must have gone out of their way to find people who really shouldn't be entrusted to fly a $72m jet carrying 180 people. Their selection criteria must weed out those who are suited to this level of responsibility, and who could not possibly pass their EASA's or CPL/ME/IR for that matter.

There is a rotten attitude on this part of pprune towards the intergrated students that is incredibly myopic. It only serves to discredit every junior pilot stepping out of flight school by portraying them as over-privileged and naive. The truth of the matter is that the vast majority have worked hard to get in, work damed hard while at school and aim to come out as well-rounded and as well prepared for their future career as possible. Oh and believe me, they know full well the implications of having to barrow/ save the amount of money an integrated course costs.

Saying that Modular people are any better or any worse than Intergrated is as bigoted as saying the Captain you fly with who went to a Private school is more deserving of their position than the Captain who went to a Comprehensive. No, each is equally deserving, no matter what route they took to get there. The same applies to flight training.

Very well said! :D:D:D
Those that have made derogatory comments about integrated graduates being naive and wet behind the ears seem to have forgotten that the even best captain in any airline’s fleet was once an inexperienced and raw green recruit. We all have to start somewhere. Whatever your background, the only way to gain experience is to do the job.

Also, every single pilot is subject to regularl line checks and SIM assessments. It doesn’t matter where or with whom you trained, it is a requirement that you meet the standard. If there was a weakness in the integrated schools, you’d soon see a disproportionate trend in their graduates failing to make the grade and no doubt, questions would be asked.

In the “good old days” it seems many pilots were ex armed forces personnel so their initial training was just happened to be funded indirectly by the tax payer. I don’t remember anyone grumbling that those commercial pilots had gained their pretty decent salaries through the public purse.

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Keep in mind that when everything goes well in integrated and you end up with a reputable airline very quickly, you will earn back the additional expanses for integrated training rather quickly

Or lose a lot of money quickly when a downturn in the market results in no jobs after course completion - many 'big school' graduates remained unemployed for years following 9-11 and some never flew professionally.

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Originally Posted by Nurse2Pilot (Post 10210515)

I've seen flexicrew mentioned a few times, can anyone clarify what that is exactly? Thanks!

It was a type of contract that CTC now L3 had with easyJet (and some others?) That was working for CTC for 2 years whilst contracting to easyJet. Then when reaching end of contract you would have an interview with easyJet to move over to them as an employee of easyJet. This has been slowly removed and now not used to my knowledge.