ATPL Theory with Bartolini Air in Poland - Looking to contact students
 

Hi All,

If you are doing, or have done, your ATPL with Bartolini Air please post here or PM me as I am a bit lost regarding planning for grouping subjects and exam sessions.

Many thanks,
Jakub

I would also be interested in this, so if anyone has any info please post.

Hi, I am doing my classroom session at Bartolini in September.
But I will sit the exams in the UK.

Hi,

thanks for getting back to my post. I may see you there in September.

I have two questions:

- will you have gone through the whole material before you get there?
- is there any reason why want to sit exams in UK ( is there any advantage other than personal preference).

many thanks!
Jakub

I will only start studying the material in July so I don't think I can cover all the material in detail before the classroom session but I plan to understand the basics of all the subjects.
The reason I want to sit the exams in the UK is that it is more convenient considering you have to travel to Poland for a few times to complete all 14 exams.
The cost of exams in the UK is way more but I am saving travel time and costs.

Not too sure about the difficulty of the exams in the UK compared to Poland.

Benny

I am looking forward to start ATPLs with Bartolini Air this August most probably.

Hey guys,

thanks all for popping up with replies. It looks like we are going to meet up in September.

I was interested what strategy you are taking up:
- how do you plan to group the subjects
- do study all subjects up front or Group 1 study and take exams and then move on to another group?
- or may be you find BGS app structured in a correct way and we should all just follow their layout?

J

I am currently doing my ATPL theory with Bartolini (I'm in Spain).

- I am still unsure what order I'll be sitting the subjects but I would like to get it done in 3 sittings (in Warsaw). Planning on going to the brush up in November (probably the earliest I can do considering I'm doing 2-3 hours a day with a full time job) and first sitting in January.
- I'm planning on studying all 14 at once (I don't think Bartolini let you come to the 2 week brush up unless you've completed around 75% of the CBT anyway).
- I find the BGS app great. The fact we can use the BGS app and sit the exams in Poland just gets you the best of both worlds.

Feel free to PM me to keep in touch.

Excellent thanks for details and being keen to help.

I will revise my strategy and get in touch.

Jakub

God, what happened to the famous 80N/80E?

Hi Jakub, could you send me a PM please, just want to ask a couple of details regarding this post

Thanks
Ollie

Hi,

I’m from Spain and I’m enrolled in a distance learning ATPL at Bartolini, too.

I still have a lot of work ahead with the CBT. Actually, I’m really willing to split the subjects in 3 groups as soon as possible, as it’s very messy to cover the 14 at the same time.

A good strategy could be going quickly through easy subjects such as human perf. and preparing the hardest ones before going to the brush up session, and then dividing the Atpl in 3 modules (Bristol Ground School native order is great!). However, as far as I am aware, we are required to sit an internal exam to get the certificate of completion...

I would be interested in taking the exams in Madrid instead of Warsaw, but I don’t think I will be allowed by the spanish CAA... (AESA or Senasa).

Glad to see different opinions on how to face the course, since the worst aspect of studying this abroad is not knowing your “classmates”!

Hi,

I'll be starting my distance learning ATPL with Bartolini hopefully in September but maybe October depending when I can get a PPL skill test and my licence back etc.

I've already been looking over some subjects thanks to friends who have completed ground school and gone onto airline jobs, I plan on taking the exams all in Poland, it's cheaper and in terms of travel costs a flight to Warsaw is around the same as fuel costs down south anyway.

It may change however I plan on going over all 14 subjects in the 5/6 months following an integrated timeline almost depending on work but leaving the hardest until face to face in Poland. Roughly I plan on grouping mine as follows:

1)
Human Performance & Limitations
Air Law
Operational Procedures
VFR / IFR Comms
Meteorology
(I plan (as it stands) to take these in the first sitting)

2)
Principles of Flight
Performance
Flight Planning
General Navigation
Mass & Balance
- Depending how I find these topics I may in fact get these exams out of the way first as I seem to find the first block quite straightforward

3)
Aircraft Gen
Instrumentation
Radio Nav

My ATPL classroom session in Bartolini was in 2016 and the internal exam was not difficult at all. Even there were some guys who just had started CBT (so with minimum knowledge) and I guess it went OK for them. But of course, if you can study most of the subjects now - do it, you well be more comfortable anyway, in Lodz and in CAA.
Maybe Spanish CAA requires something special, otherwise, Bartolini can issue your certificate of completion in English and it would be fine for many EASA countries

Hi! Im currently studying ATPL under the Bartolini school. The content i OK.
First of all im just reading through all of the subject to prepare myself for classroom. Then i can choose my first 4 subjects for exam and learn them. Should be ok, although there is a lot of slides! :)
Does anyone know if Bartolini publish an overview of when the classrom sitting are? My 5 month is over in January, and want to do this ASAP :)

You can come in Lodz with any level of knowledge (even without reading Bristol GS) but you need to complete everything before Bartolini can issue your certificate (CCC) required for exams. And you do not need to wait 5.5 months for classroom, you need it just for the certificate.
In other words, book your classroom at any moment. For the certificate you need
- to complete 100% of BGS
- to spend 2 weeks in Lodz
- then pass internal exam(s)
- to wait 5.5 mounts from your subscription date in Bartolini

I sent them an email stating that I am willing to start Atpls with them but no replies yet:uhoh:

:) So sad. That question was/is a classic

Hi Guys, I'm thinking of Bartolini as well and I see this Thread is active:

I'm looking for people who have experience with either Bartolini (Poland) or Orbit (Netherlands) ground schools.
I am trying to figure out between two of them, as they are both using Bristol system that I want to have.

The main impression right now is that in Bartolini (Poland) it is WAY more cheaper, the course and the exams fees.
But in Orbit (Netherlands) I get the impression they "care" more, they show more professional & care attitudes meanwhile communication with both of the schools.
I also understood that in Orbit I can split the classroom time and not just come for 2 weeks to cover all subjects heavily, while Bartolini giving constraints of waiting 5 months and then come to the classroom to cover ALL subjects no matter your personal progress.

I am looking for people with personal experience that can speak from their own experience with either of those ground schools!


Thanks,
Bogdan

Did you receive a reply from bartolini because I did not get a reply from them
Still waiting for them to reply

It took them a while to give the first response, but since then - they are quite responsive.
I'm really trying to gather the impression of doing specifically the ATPL with Bartolini in Poland, because they seem to offer the cheapest price for Bristol ground school in Europe and I want to sign up with them.
I'm sure there are plenty of people here that made their ATPL ground school with them and I really want to speak with one or two!
Please guys - PM me if you have been in their ground school and I will really appreciate that!

Bogdan.

Seen a few people asking about replies. I messaged on facebook about no reply and was told straight away that the messaging system on the website is down with tech issues. They told me to email the marketing manager which I think the link for his email is below the boxes you type in anyways! Hope this helps with that.

Out of interest, I'm studying with CAPT in the UK but am intent on doing my exams in Poland next year. Does anyone have any experience registering with the Polish CAA and best way to contact them ?

Cheers!

I'd also be interested to hear more about doing the ATPL course through Bartolini.

The price certainly is good, and they do use the Bristol Ground School materials which I've heard nothing but good things about. Poland is also much cheaper than the UK to sit the exams.

I do wonder though about the ground school/ revision element of the course. I think I'd prefer to do it the Bristol way splitting the course into three separate parts (or at least two) rather than Bartolini's study everything and then do revision for all fourteen subjects in two weeks. How does this work?
Also, when do people sit the exams? I presume they don't do all fourteen of them in one go.

The idea of Bartolini+BGS courses is more: classrooms are required by regulations but it is your duty to learn subjects at home and just ask some questions during classroom
Exam sit is also up to you: there are very few genious who did all in one sit but generally people prefers do it within 4-5 sits. I did it in 2 sits, it was difficult but doable. My classmates made it generally in 3-5 sits

Ahh, I see.
Is it possible to do very well just using the Bristol GS course and question bank?

Also, how would you describe the pass rate of Bartolini students? Do most people pass all exams first time?

I guess my worry is that I've been out of the habit of studying for so long, I'll need all the help I can get! :eek:

Bartolini is good but this fact that you have to wait 6 months before the exams is boring.

edhelms, how you can do about 650 hours of learning in shorter period than 5,5 months? Due to this legal restriction, ATPL course cannot be shorter. (I cannot tell you why it isn't 5 or 6 months but 5.5 for Bartolini)
Do you know any school where you can enter now and start ATPL exams in much shorter time? How they declare these 650 hours for an authority?

RedDragonFlyer, I did my exams thanks to aviation exams app on iPad but my integral knowledge is acquired from Bristol (and some old Oxford books). It was enough for me
No, there are someone resitting exams but it is not Bartolini's fault (or another school), in my opinion.

RomanK, in the UK you can start after you have completed each module of subjects...Anyway, Do you know if in Poland it is allowed to use the calculator during the exams?

At least you can bring your simple calculator (without memory) and they provide as well some scientific calculators and flight computers

I am currently studying the ATPL e-learning course with Bartolini Air. Course materials are very good. I am looking to start the classroom sessions in January of February. Feel free to contact me regarding any questions.

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What about the internal exam? Is it at the end of the 2 weeks in Lodz? If I go there with a low level of knowledge how can I pass it? Thanks

The internal examS is easy. You will be given access to the internal Bartolini system (E-barto). Here you are suppose to complete a test pr subject. 10 questions in all of the subjects with a time cap of 30 min... Now this all sounds really scary if you havent studied all the subjects.. BUT all questions have been taken from Avex question bank... so doing the internal exams is just a matter of opening up avex and searching for the questions.

I am looking at Bartolini for my ATPL theory. Does anyone have any comments on that school? Easy or hard? is it expensive? they aren't responding to my inquiries. Also, where is the cheapest place to convert a FAA CPL ME-IR to EASA F-ATP in Europe? Thanks

Bartolini air has a good reputation and I haven't heard any complaining other than the usual (weather and sometimes aircraft availability).

You should be ok with them.
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With the ATPL Theory in distance learning you are on your own, with the exception of the class time. The results will only depend on your commitment, and some people had to quit distance learning and sign up to a full time ground school course. Not just at Bartolini, also at Bristol GS. I know one individual myself.

I am still debating whether I should do online or classroom. I can do online but I am worried that all my FAA knowledge won't be enough for the easa theory. I am a hard working person but I just don't want to regret taking it online. I am desperately looking for a FAA CPL holder that did this conversion so that I can know what they faced experience wise. Does Bartolini do the whole CPL ME-IR conversion or just the theory?Thanks again to all.

Hey all, is someone starting the guided ATPL theory course with Bartolini Air next week - 23rd November 2021?