Confused with the programs
I'm still building up my knowledge about training to be a pilot but I've noticed something I cannot understand or work out.
2Fly Pro-Pilot is offering a course leading to fATPL that completes (assuming all goes well) in around 12 months. At the end of this time, a student has had: 120hrs of PPL/CPL/IR/MCC theory 650hrs ATPL theory 20+33+20=73 sim hrs 198 single engine hrs 12 multi engine hrs Total: 210 flying hrs, 73 sim hrs, 770 theory hrs (PPL & ATPL) BAA training is offering a course of integrated ATPL that completes (assuming all goes well) in 24 months. At the end of this time, a student has had: 770hrs ATPL theory 87 single engine hrs VFR 12 single engine hrs IFR -- (year 1) 37 flight & navigation procedure trainer hrs (single engine?) 51 single engine hrs IFR, NVFR 13 multi engine hrs 20 hrs MCC 15 hrs MCC on simulator Total: 220 flying hrs, 15 sim hrs, 770 theory hrs (ATPL only) L3 Commercial Training (formerly CTC?) shows the Generation easyJet program that completes (assuming all goes well) in 18 monts. At the end of this time, a student has had: 26 weeks theory 22 weeks single engine (? hrs?) 11 weeks multi-pilot training 7 weeks A320 sim training 4 weeks A320 sim and aircraft training So one school offers training over 1 year, the other over 2 years, the other over 1.5 years. Why the difference? In the 2Fly programme, I'd have done my exams by the 12th month whereas in the BAA programme, exams don't come in until month 13-16. In the 2Fly programme, I'd have done 198+12= 210 hrs of flying by the 12th month whereas in the BAA programme, I'd only have done 87+12= 99 hrs of flying by the 12th month. At the end of 2 years, I'd only have done 220 hrs of flying with BAA. Can anyone explain to me the discrepancy in training? Thanks! |
Professional Pilot Training (includes ground studies)
I did the research too and after screening a few training academies, I found out that finishing course is one thing, passing the exams at CAA is different. The usual situation is that even while having a good weather and by flying 24/7, students can‘t finish training programme earlier because they won’t manage to pass ATPL exams at CAA so quickly. There are a lot of schools in the South which state that their training programmes last 16 months – most of the time they do theory and flying sessions at the same time (spending few hours a day for flying and few hours for studying theory). However, when it's time to take exams, students get stuck passing ATPL exams and can’t go further to study IR. A few years ago I had a conversation with one flying school from Barcelona, they stated that their ATPL integrated program duration is 16 months. I asked if at least one student managed to finish training during that time interval and the training school answered oppositely as students didn't have enough time to pass exams. So, the duration announced by training schools is a matter of what they consider the actual finish of the course. |
How do you determine how many students pass/fail from certain training academies?
Still doesn't answer my question though. As you can see above, both 2Fly and BAA end up with roughly the same flight hours and theory hours... but 2Fly is 12 months with more sim hours than BAA which takes 24 months! Also, from what I understand, 2Fly students end up with PPL whereas BAA students do not. |
Why don't you ring them up and ask them?
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If this demonstrates their understanding of how airlines train and operate then I would avoid BAA like the plague. Their Gediminas Ziemelis clearly has no concept of what really happens and is delusional. But someone is paying him and as it is not airlines so it has to be wannabes. Simply put, airlines are not able to have a pool of ‘substitutes’ even if they wanted one. His attitude is also stinks. Pilots are at last in demand and now is the time to improve our T’s and C’s and I don’t think my job is really comparable with a bus driver. But this guy thinks it is. So do you want to train there?
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Interesting thread (based on above story) about BAA running in Rumours and News!
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...te-pilots.html |
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