Well I started with an advantage : an aerospace engineering degree..
So PoF, mass and balance, performance, apart from the EASA-regulations aspects (like what is Va, Vb, etc..) were done.
All "scientific subjects" like gen nav were greatly facilitated.

My method was to read the books once, then do a third to a half of the corresponding questions. 80 pages per day.
Go like this until the book was over. Then 200 questions per day

Depending on subjects, this took me 1-4 hours per day. I'd say I studied an amount of hours just above the regulated minimum of 650 hours.

Air law is what I call a "by heart" subject, so only a good memory will help you there.

The information notice is now published together with a new video.

We will see, if they put fair questions there will be no problems. If they put subjetive or imprecise questions... :\
The new styles does not mean that this questions will be about new content, am i right?

Just watched the video. There is no mention of essay type questions on the Information Notice, but they are mentioned in the video. Do you know what types of questions will involve an essay answer?

There won't be essay answers.

Happy days!

We are just about surviving with A, B, C, D ... I think we'd melt with essays!

Well essays would be much more interesting because students would actually have to learn the material...

I would love to learn the material. The issue is there are simply not enough hours in the day. The way I'm going about it is learning the topics and principles that come up in BGS and aviation exam ... and the relevant answers.

I did spend some evenings trying to actually learn the stuff like in the A-Levels, maybe I'm slow, but I spent the best part of 5 hours on one lesson trying to get my head around some concepts. The next day I had the question bank on that topic done, with relevant topics learnt along with the answers ... all in under half the time.

I do not think it is humanely possible to learn all of this stuff in 7 months.

So how did we manage before Question Banks were available with more subjects and negative marking (at least in my day)? At the risk of sounding negative, a youngster struggling to retain ATPL content might well find they have problems getting through a type-rating.

From what I'm seeing, I don't know anyone who doesn't find ground school difficult or challenging at best. There is a limit to how much info you can smack into someone's brain in such a short period of time, naturally you will forget it as time goes on and you are lumped with more material.

Maybe a good idea would be not to do this just after A-Levels.
After a master's degree I was able to learn everything in a grand total of about 400 hours (the remainder of the 650hours being revising before the tests), which equates to about 2.5 to 3 months of full time learning.
Actually I had learnt some of the content during the master's courses.

I did my A Levels back in 2013 and gained a degree since

Anyway no point complaining, just gotta do it!

Does somebody know if with the new system, the results will be given to you immediately after you finish the test (UK CAA)?

Nope, results are sent out 1 day after the sitting period for that venue.

They are given out on the friday of that week

I'm lead to believe that in Lithuania you can see immediately after picking each individual question whether you got it right or wrong ... I take it it isn't the same elsewhere?

In Spain you get the results at finishing (SENASA). When i did my PPL exams i saw a lot of good and bad reactions when the people doing ATPLs got their results sheet :)

Every testing system has its pros and cons. Multiple choice is hard to devise, since the correct answers must not be too obvious and the incorrect answers must be close and believable without being deliberately confusing. Most examiners hate devising multiple choice questions. I spent quite a lot of time with those, in another technical environment. They are limited in what can be tested well.

It is easy to default asking silly questions about irrelevant minutiae, like the dates of regulations. Harder to ask good questions about practical matters without the questions becoming unduly long and complicated. It is easy to assess and cheap to mark.
It does encourage some to ‘study to the test’, in place of understanding the topics. It is possible to pass without real understanding. That said, someone who understands the topics will do fine, if they read the questions carefully and stay calm.

The current questions, if the trial questions are any guide, do include what I would view as ‘trick’ questions, designed to catch candidates out. That I think is unsatisfactory, but very common. The new ‘quadrant’ process ought to be better, provided no trick questions are involved. Time will tell !

Yeah, the third wrong answer is the worst ;)

If this exams are more challenging than the rest of EASA, i hope employers take it into account.

They take into account theoretical knowledge when it comes to technical interviews.

I hope they not ask things like how many marking aids should a 1200m runway have.

But that's so relevant ... just like at what point on the LF axis does the manoeuver envelope line cross :ugh:

The new exams started last week, waiting for the first one to post feedback...

The new answering methods won't be in till October in the UK. It's a lot of fuss over nothing really, as anyone who can use Windows will pick it up straight away. The content itself won't have changed, except for the addition of new questions.

I thought that on 14 of this month Air Law and Radio Navigation would use this mehtod.

Will they introduce a lot of new questions suddenly in october, or gradually?

Do you know when will this be implemented in Jerez delegation?

Thanks!

I believe in Jerez it is about to start quite soon if not already, some letter their students were apparently issued with did the rounds stating something to that effect anyway.

The new answering methods (UK) were first asked last week in Radio Nav.

That's not what the CAA said..... :)

since whenever did the CAA actual do what they say. That's one of the many problems with them.

Yeah, you're right - just like reading the newspapers :)

Coming back to this, read on another forum that new exams where substantially more difficult. And lots of new questions. This is specially worrying in subjects like Air Law or OPS, where if you don't know by heart the answer, you can not figure it out.
Hope more feedback keeps arriving.

if true then this isn't fair, why should those who passed decades before us be given the license one way then suddenly it's made a hell of a lot more difficult for us just a year later, level playing field?

Change of Questions for ATPL
 

Hi, Lots of guys in my school have been failing their exams since September as the exam centre in Madrid has updated questions and the question banks are outdated. It seems most of the changes were done in August. Just wondering if anyone know if this going to be a regular occurence or was it just a once off that they updated questions?