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waela320 1st Feb 2017 20:45

Tailwind effects on lift during a microburst
 
Hello guys ,

According to the principles of flight book i understood that only GS is affected by wind changes which is TAS corrected for wind, and the indicated airspeed remains constant .
According to the lift formula , lift is half density times TAS squared times S times Cl .

1: I know engine performance decreases with a tailwind , but how lift is lost during an approach with a high tailwind if my lift formula is not affected since my indicated airspeed is constant and everything else in the formula did not decrease ?

2 :Does my indicated airspeed decrease in a tailwind or microburst and increase in a headwind or it stays constant ?

3: The book mentioned that airspeed dangerously drops during a micro burst so we try to compensate that drop with more pitch up and thus stall . What airspeed they are talking about ? :confused::confused:

Thanks

Bloated Stomach 2nd Feb 2017 00:33

1. A tailwind causes less air over the wing reducing lift. IAS is proportionate to the air around the wing. No air - no IAS.

2. IAS will decrease with a tailwind - refer to 1.

3. Not sure what book you're reading but that's very vague. Firstly, you wouldn't go anywhere near a microburst. If you're unfortunate to encounter one, you would reduce your speed to the turbulence penetration speed or worst case scenario and dropping like a stone, pitch right up just before the stick shaker (that is possibly why the book's author mentions a pitch up).

paco 2nd Feb 2017 05:28

Basic mountain flying - headwinds turn into tailwinds all the time = loss of airspeed.

bulldog89 2nd Feb 2017 08:32

1. Your TAS quantify the relative speed between the aircraft and the surrounding air mass. So when flying with a tailwind, the plane is moving, but the air is also moving in the same direction...so the relative speed decreases as well as TAS and Lift.

2. It decreases with tailwind and increases with an headwind. See above.

3. It is true for every airspeed but the GS. You can assume he's talking about TAS or IAS if you prefer.

Edit: Of course you increase your pitch to increase alpha (->Cl) to compensate for the loss of TAS. This is true until the stall point, where an increase of the alpha angle produces a decreased Cl value.

cavok_flyer 2nd Feb 2017 18:16

Try this for an explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxXw...YK0vhB&index=4

waela320 2nd Feb 2017 20:10

Thank you guys for your time and help

KayPam 2nd Feb 2017 20:56


Originally Posted by paco (Post 9661653)
Basic mountain flying - headwinds turn into tailwinds all the time = loss of airspeed.

It is also very common for jetliners to encounter wind variations from MMO to Vs1g. There is no easy way out of this.


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