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omarmn 11th Oct 2015 18:00

PPL Training Leading to ATPL - Outside of EASA countries
 
Hi,

I've been trying to get my head around the convoluted world of licensing, specifically EASA law.

I will most likely pursue my fATPL on the Modular route, though I was thinking of getting my EASA PPL in a non-EASA country (Jordan to be specific) since it's cheaper and the weather is mostly good.

Obviously that is not possible, as the FTO is not EASA approved. Though I was thinking if the following possible:

For PPL I will need 45 hours, so is it possible to do 40 of those hours in Jordan and the remainder in UK for example? And obviously I will do the skill test and theoretical test in the UK in an EASA approved FTO. Or is there a minimum number of hours that need to be flown in EASA airspace.

If anyone can shed light on this it would be much appreciated.

Omar

BigGrecian 12th Oct 2015 12:09

The list of ATOs (schools) which are approved to conduct EASA training overseas is at :

https://easa.europa.eu/easa-and-you/...-organisations

You will notice that there are no schools in Jordon on that list.

There are schools which follow the EASA guidelines and rules but are not approved meaning the training does not count.


For PPL I will need 45 hours, so is it possible to do 40 of those hours in Jordan and the remainder in UK for example?
No, you cannot credit experience from a non EASA course of training, meaning in the scenario you describe you would start from zero at the EASA ATO although with 40 hours previous experience you should complete in minimum hours.

I would suggest you contact one of the ATOs on the EASA list.

paco 12th Oct 2015 12:19

All that is needed (by us at least) is an ICAO PPL, to start a modular course. You could get the Jordanian PPL and transfer it later.

Phil

omarmn 15th Oct 2015 11:31

Great, thanks BigGrecian.

I wonder though how do FTOs like Oxford Aviation and CTC get away with this, since they do parts of their training (essentially the PPL part of the ATPL) in Arizona and New Zealand, and these hours count towards the students' hours?

In any case, thank you for your response.

Omar

Alex Whittingham 15th Oct 2015 17:09

They have 'satellite operations' run by either themselves or contracting companies under their main approval. As regards your initial question, you need an ICAO PPL to start EASA professional training and, as Paco says, a Jordanian one is fine. As to the remainder of your licensing in Jordan suggest you contact Ayla Aviation who make be able to suggest something.

omarmn 15th Oct 2015 20:59

Yea I was thinking of Ayla Aviation. Thanks Alex.


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