Lufthansa flight training
 

Hello,

Does anyone know when the Lufthansa sponsored flight training launches? Generally,any info about the program and its status would be highly appreciated.

Thank you in advance

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Sorry but i do not speak German however that is the reason i started this thread mostly,to ask if it is worth to learn the language and then apply to their flight training course as i just graduated from the high school and have 100% free time. Is it worth?

With google translation,i translated the links you gave me and i think the program is in a bad situation currently,due to high participation and therefore many graduate students are in the waiting list. Is that true?

What would you advise?

If you do not speak fluent German, I don't think you'll learn it fluently quickly enough and even if you would, why would they choose a foreigner instead of a local chap? It's truly not worth it.

Why German? There are other cadetships which do not have such stringent language requirements

As already stated by "stn" if yo don't speak German fluently you stand very little chances of getting on the Lufthansa cadet-program, language fluency is a prerequisite. But that'd be the same for any European national carrier (e.g. KLM, BA, Air France etc.). Furthermore, the current situation at Lufthansa is quite difficult, because the pilots being on strike repeatedly demanding their "right" on early retirement which the company management wants to change. Additionally the cadet-program has been suspended for the last two years (so the waiting list is long) and currently Lufthansa is in the process of restructuring the training program.

Thank you for the help.

Well as long as i will learn the language i think they will not put me in the other side seperately with the locals.

What about the swiss aviation training program? How it goes? Should i aim for it instead of LH?

Absolutely correct, but as already said that's how it works with any other national carrier. Priority is always given to the own countryman and there are usually plenty of them.

As I mentioned earlier, the waiting list at LH is long, even peolpe who already passed the LH selection process have been put on hold for several years, they have been told by LH to go to University and study (if they had any plans doing so) or do an apprenticeship meanwhile. So it's simply not worth it, as already mentioned.

In general it can be said, getting on an airlines sponsored training program is usually always difficult because there is a huge number of applicants and competition is high. Anyway good luck!

I would not bet on getting a flying job with LH in the foreseeable future. There are several 100s of fully trained license holders on the waiting list for a type rating. In fact, many have been "borrowed out" to other airlines like Austrian - while this is initially intended as a temporary measure, general opinion is that this may very well become permanent.

As a consequence, training activities at LH Flight Training appear to have (nearly) ground to a halt, and there is talk about LFT to possibly be merged with LXs flight school.

LH is set to get rid of the expensive pilots contract. The pool of pilots still flying under this contract is being dried out step by step; the main method for this is outsourcing of routes and aircraft to other airlines. VC (the LH pilots union) is battling this toe and nail, but general consensus seems to be that they are fighting a lost cause.

This was a short summary only and there is much expansion on this possible. But I will refrain from this for now and just say: If there is any other cadet scheme that seems open to You at the moment, focus on that one instead.

@ Prfpi

I really don't want to take the wind out of your sails and I honestly admire your dedication. However and to give you an example of how strict Lufthansa is with the language, I know several people who failed the FQ (Firmenqualifikation, basically the second part of the admission for LH at DLR in Hamburg) just because their german simply wasn't good enough. These were all people who had studied german at school/university and/or had lived for some years in Germany. Either for studies or work.
As for my understanding, you will not stand a chance if you are not grown up in Germany/Austria/Switzerland or at least had the language spoken at home as your primary language.

However, there is still LH Cityline and Eurowings. Here you will be able to join with decent german skills. Good luck! :ok:

So i just have to forget Lufthansa. Thank you everyone for the will to help,this information was really important to me and you really helped, i appreciate it.

Regarding LH cityline and Eurowings,i wish i could apply now but let me tell you that i first have to decide whether i should start learning german or not(it will be 5hours a day because as i said above i will have plenty of time) ,and to decide i must have the necessary information about if it is worth or not. Are these two schemes competitive?
I know, it's kind of strange question,but would these schemes exist in one year from now? Or would it be possible to reserve a position in one of them schemes(after succesfull assesment) ?

Generally,should i dedicate my time into learning the language,will there exist any interesting scheme in one year? What do you advise?


One again,thank you everyone,your advise is really important.

I'm afraid but that's pretty much the reality, as a non native speaker you won't stand a chance. The same applies for LH cityline and Eurowings. And again, as already mentioned above, the pilot positions at Eurowings as well as LH cityline are filled with pilots from the LH waiting list and this situation will not change for the better in the foreseeable future.

Thank you for the reply.

Last question..what about Swiss aviation training ? I think not everyone who joined is a German.

Finally,should i learn the language?