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Bealzebub 21st Apr 2014 21:32


There are thousands of ICAO license holders flying in European airspace everyday.
In fact there isn't a single one! Licences are issued by individual states or supranational authorities and virtually all of them are signatories to the ICAO. There is no such thing as an ICAO licence ergo there can be no such thing as an ICAO licence holder. Each state or authority sets out the requirements for validation or conversion based on its own requirements within ICAO best practices and recommendations.

deepintothesky 21st Apr 2014 22:02

mad_jock let me understand, why you throw into the bucket the CVs from the big schools? i also prefer to go in a smaller school to study and the reasons for me are too many. Its not only that it costs less but its more personalised training i think. I mean you are trained by someone who knows you and you are not treated like a robot.

mad_jock 21st Apr 2014 22:15

They are trained to manage a fully automated efis flight deck with a FMC.

Not a crappy old steam instrument none auto pilot TP.

And apart from anything else there is nothing at all to differentiate them all.

They don't want to fly a crappy old TP they want to fly a fancy jet. They only reason why they apply is because they have run out of fancy jets to apply to and are just wanting to fly anything which is multi crew.

And its easier for us if we get pilots with more developed handling skills which a 1000 hour instructor has.

And the other thing is they are all exactly the same, no life experience, nothing that leaps out at you, just the same format with the same everything on them. If you were going to take one you might as well just fan them out on a wall and throw darts at them to choose the ones for interview. Phoning the schools for references doesn't help because they will just go into sales mode and try and sell you cadet programs or send you someone else who is meant to be "the best of the year"

Yes yes, Bealzebub very droll, Ok ICAO compliant licenses, there is of course the none compliant licenses as well flying in European airspace but of course they are not flying commercial aircraft and are on national licenses such as the UK's NPPL.

deepintothesky 21st Apr 2014 22:32

i have to show you respect for the last post sir! absolutely correct! reminds me of the movie 21 (21 (2008) - IMDb) :)

speed_alive_rotate 22nd Apr 2014 08:15

I am part of an integrated coarse, however it is not one of the big 3, take it you are referring to CTC, FTE, OAA. Do all integrated students get tarred with the same brush?

mad_jock 22nd Apr 2014 08:46

They all have issues with lack of PIC skills. Which even if your going in as an FO you do need in the none shiny end of aviation.

Some of the European intigrated schools have a different philosophy with regards to hour building and send them off on international tours which the students get to choose where they are going and get sent off after being authorised some times for 2-3 days.

Quite how they do this legally I don't know.

There is also issues with training for test, its not uncommon for them not to have a clue how to fly a DME arc and have never done one.

You get a pilot in from say Airways Exeter and they will hand fly an arc and never a fart in fear.

maxed-out 22nd Apr 2014 17:18

A lot of other modular schools also teach the dme arc.....ndb/vor and are tested on them. Even the "dodgy" spanish ones sir! :cool:

mad_jock 22nd Apr 2014 17:53

I am sure they do. And good on them for teaching the full syllabus and not just training for a test with the idea that a box of tricks will be flying the machine round the pink string in future.

saiaung 30th Dec 2014 05:34

hello,please let me know about olympus aviation academy and skies aviation academy.because i wish & interesting to join those school.please answer me.thank you.

appfo09 31st Dec 2014 16:52

Egnatia Aviation in Kavalla- Greece is another option to go !!


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