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madcow 24th Feb 2001 18:01

Schools in Ireland?
 
Anybody know about flight schools in Ireland, I know you have Westair in Shannon and Southair in Cork. What are they like?

Cheers

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madcow

Patsy 001 25th Feb 2001 01:27

I'm with Aldergrove Flight Training and can thoroughly recommend them if you are in N Ireland - good bunch of people and its at an international airport with all the commercial traffic, radio calls, wake turbulence separation etc.

I have had 6 lessons with the intention of getting some experience and applying to the usual sponsorships this year - I may go and do my PPL with the school however if the sponsorships don't work out.

Give them a call.

Teroc 25th Feb 2001 09:23

Madcow,
The 2 "biggies" in Dublin are Weston and Aerial......both operate out of Weston aerodrome in Lucan, which is about 6 miles outside Dublin city centre. Theyre both good schools with some really dedicated and genuine folk...However due to the abysmal stage of GA in Ireland theyre fighting a major uphill battle...Theyre only approved to JAA PPL as far as Im aware.
GA in Ireland is "assisted" by those wonderful people in the IAA (Irish aviation authority)...or if you like ....Idiots Against Aviation.....
Dont even get me started on that one....bunch of fecking desk jockeys who do everything to prevent you getting anywhere...
forgive the cynicism people, but if you spent anytime here at all dealing with these clowns you'd know what I meant.
Example...I know a foreign pilot who among other things had 1500 hours on an F18...he came over to Ireland to do his commercial licence..before he could fly solo in Ireland the IAA insisted....wait for this one....that he did 3 hours out in Weston in a Cessna 150 !!
Lord give me strength......

mutt 25th Feb 2001 10:05

Madcow,

You didnt say what type of pilots licence you are looking for. At present you can only do a PPL in Ireland, if you are looking at doing a CPL there are lots of schools in Europe and the USA where you can go, but there are none in Ireland.

Mutt :)

keepitlit 25th Feb 2001 13:49

With reference to your question,I did my PPL at Newtownards(EGAD-six miles SSE of Belfast)
It was a good basic steping stone towards a career.
With regards to training out of a busy airport its good for experience at the latter part of PPL training but Newtownards is better for the first 25/35hrs(less traffic thus less holding more relevant training saving you money and less hassel).
With regards to any Commercial Training I would sujust obtaining a UK ATPL as this opens up a greater area for job hunting as it is accepted in both the UK and Ireland and most companys throughout the world(its a highly respected Licence).
If you have any questions on,which Schools or requirements drop me an email and I'll give you my veiw speaking from experience.

Happy flying,keep the blue side up :) :):}

mutt 25th Feb 2001 15:38

Keepitlit,

You cant start an Irish CPL or ATPL course at this time, we are presently in a transitional stage where you can finish these licences, but you cant start one.

Anybody starting off today must do a JAR licence.

I thought that the same applied to the CAA licence?

Mutt

ALT 25th Feb 2001 18:34

I've checked them all about 3 years ago, and my vote for best flight school in Ireland was Southaer in Cork
As regards the comments by TEROC, I can drink to that, in fact I probably have on more than one occasion. I was lucky to scrape through, but my resolve was severely tested.
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE

keepitlit 25th Feb 2001 20:21

OK mutt,
The correct wording should be,to study for a JAR Frozen ATPL in the UK(its still is a UK national Licece as well as a JAR one). :)
But as you said you can't start one in Ireland anyway(so why start a course only go back to Ireland to finish it?Sorry I dont see your logic.
Im just trying to give homeboys a bit of info as this business is hard enough! :)

birdlady 24th Mar 2004 21:50

Places to train in Ireland or England
 
Hello everyone!!!


Just wondering if anyone can recommend places to do there JAA CPL in the Uk or Ireland and a good ATPL ground course. Im living in S. Africa at the mo and have just completed my JAA PPL here. Unfortunately school has gone bankrupt. AHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!! Ive heard good things and bad things about Oxford. What are your thoughts? Giving me major sleepless nights. What are your recomendations on doing a multi Ir namely where and at what point in your training. :{ :{ :{ :{ :confused: :confused: :confused:

PaddyMcGinty 25th Mar 2004 00:10

I'm doing my first ATPL module with Bristol Groundschool and I definately can't fault them. Material and CD-ROM is excellent. Cant compare it to others but I'd definately recommend them.

Stephen

birdlady 25th Mar 2004 19:45

Thanks Stephen

Your irish. me to. I have heard great things about Bristol from a lot of people. I presume you are doing distance learning. Do you mind if I ask where you are doing all your flying cause I am looking for a place to do my hour building and comm. See I was doing it here in SA and unfortunately the school has gone bankrupt and they are the only ones who offer JAA. Not impressed but what can you do.

Caroline

Clrd2Land 25th Mar 2004 20:47

Have you tried these two in Ireland;

The Pilot Training College of Ireland.
http://www.pilottraining.ie

The National Flight Center.
http://www.nfc.ie

Both, I believe, offer ATPL ground school courses.

Topgun 4122T 25th Mar 2004 22:22

Hi birdlady,
Im also from Ireland and hold a ppl licence and the Atpl exams which i compleated with Bristol groundschool.
You must keep in mind that if you do your flight training in Ireland Thats fine there is a good school in Weston airport called National flight centre like one other person has already suggested but be carefull because, there is only one school in Ireland that teach the Atpl course and that is pan aviation who are I.A.A registered which puts a big restriction on you if you would rather complete your cpl training under jar regulations C.A.A which i would suggest.
Hope that helps .....

leadinghedges 26th Mar 2004 23:36

I'm Irish too but did my training in England. If you want to get an ATPL in any reasonable amount of time and still remain sane FORGET ABOUT IRELAND!. The facilities are just not in place. I have heard numerous horror stories of tech problems, lack of aircraft, ppl's taking YEARS!. Go abroad and good luck.

PaddyMcGinty 26th Mar 2004 23:53

I completely agree with leadinghedges. Its just not worth the hastle! I'm irish but god i definately wouldnt recommend training here.

birdlady 28th Mar 2004 12:56

Hi guys

Can you recommend any names of schools in the Uk that are good for atp ground courses? and even places where I should stay away from. I have to say scotland looks quite interesting. Thanks :ok: :ok: :ok:

EL SID 31st Mar 2004 18:32

Hi Birdlady
Check your PM box
ES

snowbird69 4th Apr 2004 10:04

Edited for abuse.

silverknapper 4th Apr 2004 11:45

Caroline

I think I remember you from FTC!!!
I did groundschool with Bristol, it really is excellent. Even better you can stay over there if you want to and just come here for the course and exams - believe me the difference with the FTC groundschool is like night and day, ask any guys who went with FTC - not many have even finished yet!
As for Scotland - I live here at the mo. The only school for ground school is Glasgow Nautical college. You can go either full or part time there but I've heard mixed reports on the place so do a bit more digging around before going there. I did and on the back of that went for Bristol distance learning in favour of glasgow full time.
So the rumours are true then!!! When did they finally go?

SK

flapsnslats 5th Apr 2004 22:17

If your still in south africa.How about doing your hour building their you only need 150 hour total time according to jar fcl.To be able to sit the groundschool course.I presume its the same in the uk.Unless of course money is not an issue.
check out www.panaviation.ie/atpl.htm they have summed up your next steps nicely.


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