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Victo 2nd Jan 2013 12:55

Thank you Thisismyusername, it's good to know, I will do the same, it will also be good for me to summarize all the flight hours, so as to verificate I comply with each one of the ATP flight hour requirements.. So you think I do not need another FAA logbook, even for the night hours I will do on the N registered aircraft? I shall anote them on my JAA logbook?

500 above 2nd Jan 2013 14:10

Absolutely, keep them all in the original logbook.

Victo 2nd Jan 2013 16:01

Nice, much easier.
Does anyone know if I can pass the ATP written exam before meeting the ATP flight hours requirements? Shouldn't be a problem, no? And can someone tell me how many days/months/years I have to complete ATP oral and chekride after passing the written?

MartinCh 2nd Jan 2013 16:05

24 months in standard validity of FAA written results paper for use in checkride. No point doing it too far ahead but it's nothing like JAA/EASA system of many exams.

Victo 2nd Jan 2013 16:22

Thank you Martinch, that's a lot of time,perfect. And do you know if I can pass the written before meeting the flight hour requirements?

Another 2nd Jan 2013 17:06

you need a commercial license but from what i gather (and googled) if you have a foreign commercial or ATP you may take it.

this is my username 2nd Jan 2013 18:09

There are no prior requirements for taking the PPL / CPL / IR exams other than an "endorsement" from an Instructor - I don't know about the ATP. Most of the online-type training tools will provide them for you when you have finished. I used the ASA books and the associated QB - they were as cheap as chips and did the job just fine for me.

I did the FAA PPL, CPL and Instrument written exams in the UK with only 10hrs on fixed wing before I went to the US for the flying.

Victo 2nd Jan 2013 18:36

"I did the FAA PPL, CPL and Instrument written exams in the UK with only 10hrs on fixed wing before I went to the US for the flying." If you did it so I think there will be no problem with passing the ATP written before doing the night time.Thank you!

MarkerInbound 2nd Jan 2013 23:47

Yes, you have 24 months from the completion of the written to pass the checkride. That's why you can't take (or "sit") the ATP written until you are 21, it will expire before you turn 23.

There is no requrement for an instructor's signoff for the ATP written, unlike most other FAA writtens. I guess they figure by that point in your aviaton career you should know if you're ready. You just need to present your ID and the license that authorizes you to take the test, either a commercial or foreign ATP. There did used to be a requirement that you have the 1500 hours before the written, you'd go by the FAA office for a logbook audit, get a form and then go to another FAA office to take the test. That requirement went away sometime after 1983. And the days of the FAA conducting the writtens (for free) are long gone. I think I did 10 writtens in room 200 of the old FTW FSS.

Victo 3rd Jan 2013 14:12

Perfect, that gives me a good margin of maneuvre. Thank you very much Markerinbound.

sophia6390 28th Jun 2016 01:14


Originally Posted by 500 above (Post 7599468)
All FAA T/R's are conducted to ATP practical test standards, even if added to a PPL or CPL. If you go and add a jet, say, on a PPL, it won't automatically convert to an ATPL upon passing the written exam. You would have to do the full ATP check ride on your next recurrent training.

Next issue - will you get insurance on the new type with 'only' a PPL/IR? Which Citation? Is it multi-pilot certified?

You cannot be paid on a PPL as a pilot. Do you hold another ICAO CPL? Do a CPL check ride with the T/R. Suggest you contact the training centre manager or program manager.

hi,May i ask a question,i am a FAA CPL multi and single pilot with Instrument rating,but flight time not enough 1000, if i join some training and get the simulator done,can i take theFAA ATP Written test ?or if it is i didn't meet the 1000 or 1500 hours ,i can't have the ATP ?even the written test? but if also i want have a type of B737 rating,should i must have ATP or my CPL is fine? but if i get my ATP written ,then going take the B737 type rating,is this rating will put on my ATP time? i am so confuse,hope can get the answer .

MarkerInbound 28th Jun 2016 21:12

You can take the ATP written after you complete the ATP Certificate Training Program. But you have to have 1500 hours before you take the ATP checkride. The written exam is valid for 60 months. So if you are sure you will have 1500 in 5 years go ahead and do the ATP CTP and the written. There is no "frozen ATP" in the FAA system. You will still be a commercial pilot who has passed the ATP written.

You can add a type rating to a private, commercial or ATP certificate. The FAA requires all type ratings to be flown to the ATP standards. So if you add a type rating to a commercial and then later get an ATP, the type rating will move up to the ATP level without another checkride.


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