FAA S/E CPL IR & M/E
Hi
I am unfamiliar with the FAA License requirements/privileges and would be grateful for an FAA savvy pilot to advise. I understand that to be issued a FAA ATPL requires 1500TT, a flight test and a Multi Commercial License with IR. FAA schools advertise that students will obtain a S/E CPL, IR taken in a S/E and then a M/E rating, giving a Multi CPL/IR --Does this route satisfy the above requirements to later get an ATPL? --Where does the Multi Commercial come into it? --Don't you need to take the IR on M/E to have a M/E IR, to be able to operate commercially? Back in UK I would need to take an IR on a M/E to have a M/E IR. S/E CPL is all that is required, with no advantage taking the CPL test in a M/E. I need to be sure that the FAA CPL doesn't require training on a M/E to be a Multi Commercial. That the IR taken on a S/E gives the right to operate for a commercial M/E aircraft in IFR. That the M/E rating taken alone gives the CPL and IR their 'multi status'. Many thanks in advance |
You are maybe confusing a couple of things here.
For a FAA ATP you need to meet the hour requirements (1500 hrs) and hold in CPL in the category and class that you want for the ATP. So you need a SE CPL IR if you want a ATP SE (pilatus PC 12, Cessna Caravan and such) You need a ME CPL if you want a ATP ME. You can also hold an ICAO ATP or an ICAO CPL and use it to apply for a US ATP. So no need to get a US Commercial first. Now to the instrumnet rating: Under FAA the Instrument rating (not a license or certificate) is not limited to category and class. So if you hold a PPL SE and ME VFR and you do a Instrument flight test in a ME you get both SE and ME IR priviliges. If you hold a PPL SE and ME VFR and you do an Instrument flight test in a SE you get only SE IR priviliges. If you want ME IR you need to then do a partial IR flight test in teh Multi where you are tested on ME specific IR tasks such as approaches with a simulated engine failure. In the US people generally do their training in a different order then in Europe: USA : PPL -IR CPL SE- CPL ME add on EU : PPL - CPL VFR only - IR ME Ask away if you have more questions. |
OK, the fog is lifting...
Regarding the Multi IR :- "If you want ME IR you need to then do a partial IR flight test in the Multi" however, the IR is taken after PPL in a S/E. So do you need to take another IR test when you do the Multi add-on? Regarding the Multi CPL add-on :- "USA : PPL -IR CPL SE- CPL ME add on" This add-on training and test seems to be the bit that will give you both a Multi CPL and Multi IR. So must the CPL S/E be done first so as to 'add-on' or can a CPL Multi be done instead? Thanks again |
Regarding the Multi IR :- "If you want ME IR you need to then do a partial IR flight test in the Multi" however, the IR is taken after PPL in a S/E. So do you need to take another IR test when you do the Multi add-on? The add-on is called an "add-on" because you will already have a CPL-SE. If you were doing the CPL-ME before doing the CPL-SE, then your multi CPL will be an initial, not an add-on. :) |
Thanks for the replies.
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