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flyhighspeed300 3rd May 2011 17:54

Airways flying
 
quick question.

flying "airways" (IFR), in the UK and France single made crew, is it an requirement to have an ADF?

I cannot find out this information and would be great full if any one knows the correct answer..

madlandrover 3rd May 2011 21:35

ANO (CAP393, free from the CAA website) Section 1, Schedule 5 will give you the formal answer for the UK, last time I looked Eurocontrol gave easy access to all the national rules/regs for the French (& onwards) sides.

flyhighspeed300 3rd May 2011 21:48

Thank you for the reply.

I have had a quick look in ANO (CAP393, free from the CAA website), but couldn't find anything on ADF requirements.

I have had a look at the "Eurocontrol" website and have been unable to find any thing on ADF requirements, flying in controlled airspace.

madlandrover 4th May 2011 23:44


I have had a quick look in ANO (CAP393, free from the CAA website), but couldn't find anything on ADF requirements.
Section 1, Schedule 5 - page 249 onwards of the PDF, much easier than the hard copy I have to reference to at work. Para 4, Scale F has the exact reference you're looking for to prove/disprove a case :)

It's been a while since I've had to look for the French/other European requirements I'm afraid, last trip was with a G1000 with a fair bit of certified nav kit!

flyhighspeed300 5th May 2011 21:27

The aircraft I plan to fly to France in is either a DA40 or DA42, which has a G1000.
The aircraft has the correct number of altimeters and HSI/ CDI to fly airways in. But the DA40 does not have a ADF!!! The aerodrome which I will fly out from in the UK does have a NDB situated onsite.

Superpilot 7th May 2011 08:59

In the UK you most definitely need an ADF still even though your approach may not be a non precision one. In Germany you only need it for the obvious (a NPA).

These links might help:

ADF/DME Carriage Requirements AGAIN [Archive] - PPRuNe Forums
IFR Flying in Europe

Search for key word ADF. The referenced Eurocontrol documents no longer exist at those locations though.


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