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TESTingPILOT 18th Feb 2010 18:47

Aft To Close Groundschool With Immediate Effect !
 
Buddy of mine on the course has just been pulled in along with 2 other students to be told 'we are closing full time groundschool with immediate effect' . They started in January and have the first module exams in a week and a half , great timing AFT :ok:

TESTingPILOT 18th Feb 2010 18:52

AFT just get better
 
Just spoken to another guy currently distance learning through AFT , he is totally unaware of this as AFT havnt even had the courtesy to inform him.

Big round of applause for AFT :D NOT !

Alan l 19th Feb 2010 21:35

I wouldn't group the staff in your sarcastic congrats TP,it's not their fault..............:=

wheelbrace 19th Feb 2010 22:35


I wouldn't group the staff in your sarcastic congrats TP,it's not their fault..............:=
A tad sanctimonious, perhaps Alan l - what is your position - do you expect the MD of a working FTO to email all the students? Of course the staff are to blame for this discourtesy if they are still at their desks and accepting remuneration!

Presumably they are having the decency to be working out a solution with the CAA for crediting those with at least having done stage checks of the ATPL theory syllabus. Shysters if not...

Hakeem 19th Feb 2010 23:14

Sorry guys do you mean AFT - Brisbane. Which do ATPL theory CASA?

Whirlygig 20th Feb 2010 07:21

I'd guess from their locations that they mean AFT in Coventry UK.

Cheers

Whirls

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 07:48

Alan l , I am one of the 3 who were in that room , he isnt commenting on the staff for obvious reasons , as i am without a course they are now without a job.

The instructors have been nothing but professional after basically being made aware in December that ours was the last course and that full time would close at the beginning of July they still had the professionalism to delivery an excellent course 'The Nav' in particular , he knows who he is :}

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 07:52

Wheelbrace - I expect the MD to allocate the job of emailing every student , it is an expectation of their commitment to students to at least inform them of a major change like this.

valkyrie42 20th Feb 2010 09:48

The MD or to give him his proper title CEO - cares not one iota for his staff - or students (exception being possibly if they are sponsored by his fellow desert dwellers) - The staff are totally professional and currently struggling to keep things together in what are very difficult circumstances - this does not only apply to Groundschool either!

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 10:18

I will second that , the staff in my short time there were all courteous and professional at all times :D

CATS Support 20th Feb 2010 10:41

CATS support
 
If this is all unfortunately true at AFT Coventry
We have a Stage 1 ground school next week at Luton which you can attend gratis

MON: AL / VCOM
TUE: MET
WED: OPS / ICOM
THU: MET
FRI: HPL

Alex Whittingham 20th Feb 2010 10:49

Presumably the full time groundschool students will be offered a switch to AFT's distance learning package?

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 11:13

Thats right yes Alex , but i gave up a very well paid job in December to transfer from distance learning to full time so im very :mad: off at the moment !

May be giving you a call real soon but will see how it goes first :(

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 11:16

CATS - Thanks very much for that its really appreciated ! The instructors are in next Monday / Tuesday which again proves testament to their professional attitude towards the students and helping them through the exams.

davey147 20th Feb 2010 14:21

Downwind24

Im guessing AFT are not going bust, are they giving you ALL your money back?

You should claim some kind of compensation for them messing you around, im sure they knew about this when you signed up.

wheelbrace 20th Feb 2010 14:40

CEO and staff
 
Downwind 24 - you seem to misunderstand what I was saying in my earlier posting; I am on your side - the staff can fight their own battles.

If the company has gone bust I would expect the CEO to email (at least) all his/her disappointed/inconvenienced pupils with reasons and what he/she is doing about this situation.

If the company has not gone bust, he/she would, I am sure delegate the task of communication with pupils. In this case the professionalism of the staff should be applauded when they brainstorm and implement solutions for you all.

I studied at BGS by distance learning. My experience with them was excellent and I urge you to proceed directly to their square and pick up the advantage when you pass 'Go'.

As an aside, AFT's website is running but the information page is still only trumpeting good news. Get a grip, AFT - don't squander all the goodwill you had.

valkyrie42 20th Feb 2010 14:57

Davey - I agree with most of what you say - except the part about AFT staff having prior knowledge of this - What you need to understand is that the CEO has a habit of making these kind of snap decisions with little or no regard for anyone who is in the firing line. I do not speak out of turn as there are many threads on here to concur with what I am saying. If you are his flavour of the month you are ok - but this changes very fast and if his taste buds tire of you, you will find yourself leaving by the nearest exit before you can pack your headset and pot plant. The way in which this has been handled may sound unfair, out of order and thoroughly not cricket , but for those who have personal involvement and experience of how this man conducts himself it really is no surprise

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 16:59

Ok i see what you mean , Valkyrie it appears you may have also been on the recieving end of what im now experiencing ??

Regards the fact i left my career after recieving email and verbal confirmation even after the AP had closed hurts even more ! in my first week both the man in charge down there and the liason / admin were 'disposed' of in the same week , thats when i was starting to have second thoughts!

We shall see what Monday brings and the phonecall that i 'should' receive first exam in 9 days :bored:

manxcat 20th Feb 2010 17:06

Flying Courses
 
On the Airports Forum there is talk of the CPL/IR training moving to Doncaster. Does anyone know if this is 100% confirmed and if so from when?

What about the FI and MCC/JOC courses? Is the CRJ simulator moving too?


the liason / admin were 'disposed' of in the same week
Does this include Teresa?

Thanks.

downwind24 20th Feb 2010 17:10

That was referenced to Teresa , and as far as i understand it will all be going to Doncaster Manxcat


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