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annita 19th Apr 2009 07:38

new regulations on tattoos
 
Hi all.
Has anybody heard anything about a a new regulation not allowing tattoed people to obtain an ATPL?
At least this is what a friend was told when he went to get a class 2 medical.
The doctor denied to let him go through the tests.

Whirlygig 19th Apr 2009 07:48

Sounds like a wind-up to me. Besides, a Class 2 medical is for private pilots.

Ask on the Medical forum; more likely to get a straight answer than on a training forum.

Cheers

Whirls

KSM 19th Apr 2009 08:08

Well sounds like the Doc. didt like a Hell Angels biker to be a pilot :ok:
I have 2 Tattoos and allso have a medical class 1 and iam going on the ATPL in 11. Jan
But my Tattoos can be cover up by a short sleeve shirt,

fadedfootpaths 19th Apr 2009 08:57

I have this dream of getting a tattoo on my neck, so I guess it will be a dream:{:{

Whirlybird 19th Apr 2009 09:03

Unless they strip you during the medical and search absolutely everywhere and every bit of skin, how on earth is anyone going to find out? The mind boggles!!!

captain_rossco 19th Apr 2009 09:07

No tattoos! You 've been done.
Hook , Line and Inker.

CR

MartinCh 19th Apr 2009 23:57

Huh. We're nearing end of April. 01/04 is gone. Did you seriously believe that?

I suggest your friend (if he actually was being wrong but sincerely believing so) finds new doctor. Or even better, do the Class 1 first thing if he's after CPL/ATPL in the end. He should know by now if he's ever been to PPRuNe..

True, some airlines may have negative stance towards tattoos visible when wearing uniform. Search for tattoo thread that's been live recently.

KSM 20th Apr 2009 09:04


True, some airlines may have negative stance towards tattoos visible when wearing uniform. Search for tattoo thread that's been live recently.
If not all of them.
Old miss Molly will not feel safe if the pilot have ink all over.

but if you can hide them its privat, and your own business



Thinking about geting a B17 on my :mad: a little one Iknow :ok:

smith 21st Apr 2009 18:57

Shouldn't be allowed in my book.

Anyone who disrespects their own body enough to have permanent graffitti embedded in their skin should not be allowed to fly a jet liner. If they are prepared to mutilate (and yes it is mutilation) their own body, will they respect their passengers body's any more?

Don't hit me with the "it's artwork" and "people have been doing it for centuries" rubbish, we live in a modern civilised society of which self mutilation plays no part, the best a person who indulges in this sort of behaviour can be described as is ferral!

BEagle 21st Apr 2009 19:17

Correct, smith, I couldn't agree more.

The same applies to those who wear facial scrap iron. Whether flight or cabin crew.

At a time when airlines can be more selective than ever, those with piercings or tattoos are highly unlikely to be selected. And a good thing too!

oldpax 21st Apr 2009 19:22

come on!
 
Any ex fleet air arm pilots out there who would like to comment on this thread!Some ones calling you ferral and other names!Does this thread only apply to pilots or people in all walks of life?

KSM 21st Apr 2009 20:29

Smith

we live in a modern civilised society
???
ther you are right and thats why ther are room for all who have the possibility to be a pilot,
tattoo or no tattoo
but as i said before that it is not ok if you cant cover them.

dont Judge people on the outside, you can realy burn you self on that

Frederik and Mary's Trip to Australia: Feb. 27-Mar. 11 2005 - Page 2 - The Royal Forums

here is a link on a guy who have some tattoos and he is allso a pilot and he also happen to be the crownprince of Denmark:D

annita 21st Apr 2009 20:59

I started this thread to ask if there are any regulations on tattos and not to start a debate if its is right or not.
As some of you have mentioned that people with tattoos should not be allowed to fly jets because they have no respect for their own bodies then we women should not be allowed to fly aircraft because we pierce our ears and that also can be considered as having no respect for our bodies.
I mean we are causing pain and scars to our own bodies for no apparent reason.
What about smoking then?
People that smoke have no respect for their bodies or others so again they should not be allowed to fly according to this kind of mentality and thinking.
Have you ever thought that a person that has a tattoo might had that done 20 years ago when he was a young guy/girl?
Then you say we live in a modern society.
I agree.
I am very sorry to say that your thinking is not so modern.........:ugh:

smith 21st Apr 2009 22:19


Then you say we live in a modern society.
I agree.
I am very sorry to say that your thinking is not so modern.........
Getting permanent grafitti inked into your skin is not civilised, it is tribal!!!

CY333 21st Apr 2009 22:37

I believe we are drifting from the subject a bit as it is becoming a debate BUT:
In some civillisations getting permanent ink is considered civilised.
Who are we to judge others and what is considered civillised?
In some European countries they hunt foxes for fun or eat little birds and it is considered to be civillised while in other countries is considered barbarian.
The way we look has nothing to do with the way we act in everyday life and every person has the human right to express as they like.
That is a fact.
As Annita said,usually people get tattoos when they are quite young.
I am sure that we all did far more worse things when you where young than getting a tattoo.
Apparently there is no law stopping people to get tattoos and becoming pilots.:ok:
Now, if a company denies to take on people due to the fact that they have tattoos, then that is an internal company issue.

smith 21st Apr 2009 22:57


Now, if a company denies to take on people due to the fact that they have tattoos, then that is an internal company issue.
I do not think a company would do this as policy as it could be considered discriminatory by an industrial tribunial, however an individual interviewer may or may not take a dim view of an inked person which could jeopardise his/her's success as a candidate.

selfin 21st Apr 2009 23:03


Originally Posted by smith
... an individual interviewer may or may not take a dim view of an inked person which could jeopardise his/her's success as a candidate.

I would personally be more worried about dogmatic attitudes than concealed tattoos.

smith 22nd Apr 2009 05:12


Have you ever thought that a person that has a tattoo might had that done 20 years ago when he was a young guy/girl?
Not an excuse!

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In some civillisations getting permanent ink is considered civilised.
Maybe in outer Mongolia, third world countries and tribes in the Amazon jungle!!! I am sure they are very civil people however maybe I should exchange the word civilised with westernised.

G SXTY 22nd Apr 2009 06:29

There are plenty of daft rules and regulations in the world of commercial aviation, but a tattoo ban is not one of them.

However, any sort of overt tattoo won't do much for you career prospects, and the reason is very, very simple. Hang around an airport for a while and see what all the pilots look like. With very few exceptions we will be smartly and conservatively dressed, because that's the image that airlines want us to project - and it's what joe public expect to see. Knuckles with 'love' and 'hate' etched into them or a spiders web on your shaved skull are unlikely to get you extra marks at a job interview.

john_tullamarine 22nd Apr 2009 06:47

I suspect that, if the original comment be on the level, the medico was alluding to the possibility of viral blood infections acquired via the tattoo process. HIV, etc, is a concern in aircrew medicals .. at least in Oz.


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