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So once having the CPL/IR/ME is the MCC now a requirement?

What do pilots tend to do next? What would be the next step?

What have people done in the past?

Many thaanks

Mark

Maybe an Instructor rating would be good.

Nowadays a self-sponsored type rating :E

Yes the MCC is now a requirement. After the FATPL, you can probably either do an instructors rating or type rating, though the type rating is going to be costly in the average range of £20,000, some are more expensive than others.

If you want to be an instructor, don't the IR and MCC till you want to get an airline job, as it expires every 12 months.

Good Luck

Brian304:ok:

Does the MCC really expire? Its a certificate, not a licence or rating. AFAIK all you need it for is to add your first multi pilot type rating onto your licence as per F4.1 of LASORS. Also a TRTO (or airline) may well have their own rules requiring you to hold the MCC prior to starting a type rating course. I couldn't see anything in Section F10 of LASORS that said it expired though?

From a practical perspective the better MCC courses have waiting lists no different from the IR and CPL training. Therefore timing will be important between getting a job interview/acceptance and having the MCC in the bag. Also you will have a hell of a lot on your plate doing a type rating so having the MCC out of the way will make life a whole lot easier.

You might decide to save some money for now and book yourself onto an MCC course when the market picks up. Depending on which course provider you choose this could have the added bonus of getting you back up to speed of instrument scans, holds etc prior to a sim ride.

The only trouble with not getting an IR is that your ATPL exams "lapse" 3 years after successfully completing them.

potkettleblack,

No, the MCC doesnt expire. Its a one off certificate which is required for Type rating purposes. Moons ago, airlines used to pay for the MCC, but now of course Pilots have to stump that one up themselves.

The only things that expire after gaining an fATPL are the various ratings - SEP, MEP, and MEIR. Not too much of an issue if the SEP or the MEP lapse but the MEIR must be current for a Type rating course. Best bet however is to keep everything current and keep flying.