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jxc 23rd Mar 2008 09:46

BCFT Bournemouth reviews
 
Hi Guys

I think i have decided to go to BCFT for my GS and then my cpl & IR but would like some feedback pref the negative feedback that one can expect, as I only ever hear good feedback.


Cheers

JXC

will fly for food 06 23rd Mar 2008 10:16

That because there isnt any negative feedback that i know of. I finished at BCFT a few months ago. It took ten months to do the ground school, Cpl, Mep and IR. All first time passes including the ground school.

mb2ai 23rd Mar 2008 11:01

hi peeps

What did you think of not doing the MCC there? or did you do it there?

Because if I go there I want to do all of my training there, including the MCC.

Are any of their grads activley being employed? Thanks for your time

jxc 23rd Mar 2008 11:03

What was the mix of the ages like for the students was it a good spread ?

JXC

Nearly There 23rd Mar 2008 11:42

BCFT are not offering an MCC at the moment, because the Tri Star sim at European Aviation had a fire and is now dead.

European are now offering the MCC on the 737 200, you can do all your commercial training at BCFT then go over to European for MCC, unless BCFT sort something out in the meantime, they where talking about buying there own fixed base sim ( Citation) for this purpose a short while ago.

As for age range, I only did my ground school and night rating there, and thought I might be the oldest (34), but 2 guys where older than me on the ground school and a couple of guys doing CPL and IR were also late 30s early 40s.

Age did not become a problem in anyway, the course gelled well.
Good school and I doubt you will get much if any negative feedback.

will fly for food 06 23rd Mar 2008 11:47

At the moment BCFT do not do MCC. This is because the simulator they used to rent caught on fire:eek:. I did my MCC at European on the 737-200 which was also very good. There was a good mix of ages from 18 to 44 on the course i did at BCFT. Now i'm part of the group of people job hunting. BCFT managed to get me an interview with a company because of my Jet time but they didnt have any slots so im starting my FI in a few weeks to keep busy.

maxdrypower 23rd Mar 2008 11:49

Jxc Sent you a Pm . But I start there for GS 7th april and im 38 , im ore worried about being outed as a thickie more than anything else

mb2ai 23rd Mar 2008 12:56

will fly for food,

Well done on completing your fATPL. When you say jet time, what do you mean?


Everyone else,

What do you about accommodation down that neck of the woods?

will fly for food 06 23rd Mar 2008 13:39

BCFT has a list of local places where you can rent a room.

"Jet time" hours in my log book where I have flown jet aircraft but not requiring a CAA qualification if you know what I mean. Unfortunately that phase of my flying career finished so i then had to convert to civilian licenses.

potkettleblack 23rd Mar 2008 14:04

Would you not consider going to another BOH based school that is advertising here on pprune which has links to the likes of Flybe and Jet2?

AFAIK BCFT have no links/relationships call it what you will for jobs after you complete your training. The usual caveats apply though and you need to go in with your eyes wide open. I would be asking lots of tough questions of the CFI to see who is getting their CV put forward and what hoops you need to jump through.

will fly for food 06 23rd Mar 2008 14:37

BCFT do have links with a certain company. I had an interview with them because of BCFT and someone on my course got a job flying another aircraft type with them. That is only a special link though and not on the same level as some other places you state.

SinBin 23rd Mar 2008 14:53

Apologies for my lack of grammar skills, just got back from the middle east and I'm knackered.
Everyone I was there with have got jobs, ranging from dash 8s, Falcons, 737s to A320s. I'm on the A320 straight from there and I didn't pay for a type either. There are 2 of us who trained at BCFT who joined bmi mainline straight from there and I'm very glad I went to BCFT as networking was the key to the job, and at BCFT there is a very good chance of networking as some instructors also fly for the airlines. It is a highly respected school with the airlines

All good from my point of view.

jxc 23rd Mar 2008 16:01

So from you guys who have finished what the amount you spent on training excluding ppl so from GS hourbuilding IR MCC not a breakdown just a total ish figure

Many Thanks

JXC

SinBin 23rd Mar 2008 16:04

About £30-35K

will fly for food 06 23rd Mar 2008 16:14

same here.

windypops 26th Mar 2008 22:58

BCFT's ground school is as far as I'm concerned very good. It is well structured and most importantly well taught. However remember that lecturers can and do come and go and any school is only ever as good as its employees. I would recommend the ground school for residential, and this is "somewhat" objective as I have a fair amount of education behind me and have experienced a range of teaching styles and methods and I consider BCFT very good. I have of course not experienced any other ATPL ground school so cannot give a comparison to other providers.

With regard to the flying side of things, I believe this may be a slightly different matter (I have gone elsewhere) and in my opinion perhaps does not complement the high quality of the ground school as well as it should. Pass rates do not seem to be quite as good as some others at Bournemouth, but whether this is down to the teaching or perhaps just a different calibre of student recently is impossible to say. This is something worth noting with any school, and the only way to get a decent opinion is to back seat at as many as you can, chat to students, chat to the ops staff and chat to the instructors who will teach you, not just the sales people/heads of training.

I have first hand experience of “sales technique” from BCFT which contained some misleading and factually incorrect information. I am also led to believe that they have increased their class sizes from the 10-15 they advertise on their website (not sure about their paper literature), that’s not to say it’s a squeeze as I’m sure there are Fire Regs etc they should abide by, just a bit sneaky in my opinion.

I would also be aware that some opinions and posts on pprune are at the request of some of the staff at BCFT. However I'm sure many ex/students on here are writing exactly as they found.

At the end of the day there is no holy grail of school, and what is right for one is not necessarily the same for others, after all while the above is my opinion, I’m sure if you visited and chatted to students you would find plenty of good stuff. I just believe there are a few issues which if ironed out would turn BCFT into something very good indeed. (for example little things such as encouraging students to dispose of the fuel samples in a way that does not damage the aprons, or leaving headsets next to the magnetic compass, it’s the small things in my opinion which set aside a Professional pilot from a really excellent Professional pilot).

Apologise that this has turned into a long post, and remember to make your own opinions from visiting as many schools as possible.

SinBin 26th Mar 2008 23:10

Well no-one asked me to say anything!

First time pass rates at BCFT I think were a standard average as throughout the flight training world. How someone with no experience of the level of instruction there can comment on it confuses me. Pure speculation I'm afraid. It is down to the individual whether he/she passes first time. The level of instruction I had there was first rate. A few hiccups along the way whch were down to me. Nerves are the biggest part in passing or failing not instruction which is entirely standardised across the board.

CABUS 26th Mar 2008 23:32

Great school with a very friendly atmosphere and some excellent and approachable instructors and best of all, a fantastic local pub;). I had a great time there, the ground school was good as well and got me through with a very high average.

Basically they make it good fun in and out of the classrooms which really helps get you through, they also arrange social events and the instructors go for a beer with the students on quite a regular basis.

Go for it I have got no regrets.

fokkerboy27 27th Mar 2008 00:29

Good outfit,

Did my IR/CPL conversion there and one of the instructors landed my CV on the desk of the Chief pilot in the company that i am flying for now.

They will do what they say they would.

Don't miss out on a good P.ss up in the aero club,try to beat my yard of ale time!

Cheers.

Nearly There 27th Mar 2008 08:17

Cabus is correct the local pub is great, friendly bar ladies!! and the beer and food is not bad either...:ok:


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