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mikeyk01 5th Feb 2008 07:45

Seneca or DA42 for CPL and multi
 
just after some opinions from people who are going through profesional flight training or who have been through as to which is going to be the best aircraft to the cpl and multi on. Any thoughts, comments or opinions welcome.

A and C 5th Feb 2008 07:56

PA-34!
 
Fly the PA34 and you will have a chance to get to grips with the basics of IF, it will stand you in good sted for the day in the future when both FMC's quit and you have no magenta line to follow.

CAT3C AUTOLAND 5th Feb 2008 08:17

A and C, what about the green line on the Airbus ND? :p

mikeyk01 5th Feb 2008 09:22

Am I also right in thinking that if you were to do your multi in a diamond you would need differences training before been able to fly something like a seneca or aztec?

outside_loop 5th Feb 2008 09:36

you need differences training to fly ANY twin you havent flown before, its not specific to the DA42.

also, you use raw data for your IR in the DA42, just like in an old spam can, only difference is its on a screen instead of a cluster of steam gauges. fly the one you think you'd prefer. i know which i prefer! :)

edymonster 5th Feb 2008 09:40

Pick the right school and fly the aircraft they have to offer, don't really think it matters.

skyhigher 5th Feb 2008 09:44

i did my IR on the da42 and now fly an old school turbine with many leavers and dials (no more magenta line or autopilot!) and it did nothing to damage my flying, never had any problems. the way i see it is that the IR is very high pressure, and if you can help yourself with choice of aircraft then why not. plane and simple...........

as other have said, you will require difference training to move aircraft as usual!

BillieBob 5th Feb 2008 14:29

According to the CAA, first time pass rate is noticeably higher on the DA42 than on any other type. On that basis, if you want to avoid re-test fees the DA42 would seem the way to go.

A and C 5th Feb 2008 17:22

Cat3c Autoland
 
Can you please enlighted me as to what the function of "green line" on the Airbus ND is?

As it is 17 years since I did the A320 Ground engineers course I can't remember and it will be a month or two before I start the training to fly the A330.

mikeyk01 5th Feb 2008 18:27

Cheers for the replys,

some interesting comments, think it'll come down to which FTO will be best for me as there are a couple o good local choices.

Deano777 5th Feb 2008 21:37

edymonster is spot on, choose the school that is best for you, and if they happen to have DA42s then so be it.

Did mine on a PA34 and loved it, First Time Pass with no issues, who needs fancy EFIS displays?

CAT3C AUTOLAND 6th Feb 2008 08:12

A and C, solid green line is the track line on the primary flight plan :).

A and C 6th Feb 2008 08:54

Cat3c Autoland
 
Thanx for that, it looks like I am going to have to brain dump of all the last 8 years of Boeing stuff !

madlandrover 6th Feb 2008 15:28

DA42 to fly the simpler aircraft through the test, then differences training on a 6 lever aircraft - IMHO the better way to learn, but then again I'm biased because that's what I did. The 42 is by no means a guaranteed test pass (an "unpredictable" ADF, mainly) but it does make life far simpler when under test conditions.

a320_richie 6th Feb 2008 15:46

Guys... nice discussion about instruments.. but arent we missing the bigger picture here.

Doing a first time multi is about handling N-1 situations. The DA42 takes away the most difficult part out of it. It handles the failure itself!!
If you do some kind of bridge course after your multi and go fly jets directly, go with the DA42 cause of the modern avionics.

If you have go fly "smaller" / "older" planes..think twice about doing it on a DA42 and consider a PA34/PA44 or other light twim.

outside_loop 6th Feb 2008 15:55

it doesnt handle the failure itself. you switch off the master switch and the prop feathers - in the same way that you pull the blue lever in a pa34 and....the prop feathers. its not rocket science is it?! just make sure you pick the right engine:}


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