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slow_bird1 11th May 2006 11:17

Speed distance time
 
Hi

How would you guys work out the below or simular problems?

you want to be at 1000' 5 miles from the beacon. You are currently at 8000' and 20 miles from the beacon and your airspeed is 150kts. What descent rate do you need?"
thanks

Sb1

Alex Whittingham 11th May 2006 11:27

You'd need a groundspeed to get anything useful. What's the TAS and wind component?

buster172 11th May 2006 11:28

Hi Speedbird,

Its been a while since I did one of these but, perhaps something like this?

Your at 8000ft at 20miles and you need to be at 1000ft at 5 miles.

This means we need to lose 7000ft in 15 miles.

At 150kts, it will take you 6 minutes to fly those 15 miles 15/150 x60 =6 mins

So, we have 7000ft to lose in 6 minutes, 7000/6 = 1166ft, or about 1200ft/min if I was flying :-)

It often helped me to draw a diagram out and look at the problem side on.

Hope that helps,

Regards,

Buster

Re Alex, I had assumed (never do that! ) that airspeed and groundspeed were the same given no wind information. That makes it a little more straightforward.

eoincarey 11th May 2006 11:57

yep, i got the same as buster, 1166fpm. Anyone got any better?

ETC

sicky 11th May 2006 13:13

so simple when you break it down like that!

mckrll 11th May 2006 13:53

I get 1166.7ft/min with a Slp of 4.4deg.

Mind you that's electronically, which I suppose doesn't count?!

Andrew

High Wing Drifter 11th May 2006 15:04

I prefer to think in nm/min. You can just plug nm/min into any speed based rule of thumb, I find it much easier to juggle 1.5,2,2.5,3 etc in my head than thinking in longhand (15/150*60).

That 150 kts. Is that TAS or IAS? If it is TAS then it should be the the average TAS from 8000' to 1000', who would fly a constant TAS when descending? Assuming it is IAS it doesn't change it much, rule of thumb answer using the rule of squares for TAS still pops the answer out at ~1200fpm. However, will make a big difference if descending from hypoxic altitudes though.


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