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African Drunk 5th Jan 2005 14:33

Oxford Instructor Shortage
 
As I understand it 3 more Oxford IR instructors have left for pastures new. With 7 also having left in the autumn and 9 on "lifestyle contracts" ( part time 300 hours a year ) it seems to me there will not be enough instructors to train the students coming through the system and the delays can only increase.

With the ground school also losing 8 instructors it does look like their are one or two problems in staff relations. With the market as it is their is a shortage of experienced instructors around. I can't see where Oxford are going to recruit new instructors.

witchdoctor 5th Jan 2005 15:51

Well, Lofty has been warning of a pilot shortage for absolutely ages. Here it is at last!!!


Ho ho ho.

:}

EGAC_Ramper 5th Jan 2005 19:07

Thankfully I'm not doing my modular IR with them.:)

RVR800 6th Jan 2005 09:15

Investors in People
 
As investors in people Oxford will no doubt be keen on paying for their FI(A)s to upgrade to IRI(A)s

Or they could sponsor me :eek:

PM me if interested

muppethead 6th Jan 2005 10:37

Anyone know which ground instructors have left Oxford?

Iam going down in 2 weeks for a phase 2 brush up and am wondering if that will be affected in any way.

Cheers, Muppethead :ok:

p.s, hope Mr Steve (Geordie) Tindle is still there!!!:} :}

African Drunk 6th Jan 2005 10:39

Steve Tindle, Steve Francis and others are at PGT in Kemble.

RVR800 I believe Oxford have only got two other FI's to upgrade so they might be giving you a call.

Craggenmore 6th Jan 2005 12:13

witchdoctor,

your post about 'Lofty's pilot shortage' really made me laugh! good one!

Craggs

p.s. Steve Francis, Steve Tindle, John Hedges, Chris Perry and Pete Begley have all left OAT

Steve Tindle 6th Jan 2005 13:03

Muppethead.
Sorry i can't be at Oxford when you attend but the rumours are true. I'm now down at Pilot Ground Training at Kemble in Gloucestershire.
Further to the last message i can also confirm that i have been accompanied by Steve Francis, John Hedges, Pete Begley and Adrian Smith.
P.S Chris Perry also left Oxford and is currently flying although he does work down here on a part time basis.
All the best for the future, feel free to call for a coffee anytime

RVR800 6th Jan 2005 14:32

Why is everybody leaving?

Pete Lines 6th Jan 2005 15:06

For all those students who
wondered what happened to Pete Lines ex ATA Coventry I too have just joined PGT team at Kemble to teach Brush Ups.

tom775257 6th Jan 2005 16:27

I am glad to hear it Pete. I hope life is treating you well, I will pop down to Kemble and pay you a visit.

For your information Ash has now completed his fATPL. Charlie has completed his FAA CPL/ME/IR and is currently converting in to a JAR licence. I am a week or two from hopefully finishing my fATPL also.

All the best,
Tom S.

African Drunk 6th Jan 2005 16:42

RVR800 as I understand it a few reasons but particually the new contracts, which meant an inforced paycut, anti-social hours and generally bad moral. Also I believe there were issues over cutting back the number of hours on the ground school.

Tea White None 6th Jan 2005 17:00

Indeed, a number have left for pastures new for whatever reason, but Oxford have also taken on another 4 or 5 Ground Instructors recently so it's not all doom and gloom. It just seems that the real characters have gone.

Not sure what is happening on the FI side of things though.

Finchy 6th Jan 2005 22:30

Tea White Non,

Instructors that have left may have had character and good luck to them in whatever they are moving on to do..........we all do it from time to time in our lives and some of us several times!!

However, this is not to say that the new ones have no character - Pete Quinlan for example, grand job I can assure you he will do. When the students have gone home, hopefully with noses in notes and books, Pete will for sure be at home writing question papers etc etc. This guy is 100% (and more if possible) committed to getting HIS studes through the course and he will. He takes great pride in those passes. He will tell you, more than 75% is a grand effort, but any more than that is wasted effort.

Pete Q......."******* Ding dong!!" and "keep the noise down to a dull roar!!"

Nice one Pete Lines didn\'t think you\'d stay awy from it for too long

witchdoctor 7th Jan 2005 10:23

Fear not, Del Hammond is still there.

Oh, hang on. No, be very afraid - I heard he was doing his PPL. Run for cover!!! :}

muppethead 7th Jan 2005 16:16

Sorry to hear you've left Steve, good luck with the new job!!

The though of Del H flying, now that is a scary thought!!:ooh:
Things will never be the same again......

Steve Tindle 8th Jan 2005 09:06

Jet Wash Dragon.
Nice to see you remember the 3 fingers for thermal efficiency (ish).Still using the same methods and i even have some new stories.
We still keep in touch with the guys in the corner at Oxford, Del Dick and the ultimate gentleman, General Milne (what a guy!).
Yes Pete Lines has also added his expertise to the cause at Kemble and it's so nice to have him on board.
Muppethead thanks for the best wishes and this goes for all of you. If you fancy a chat or coffee feel free to call. You will always be made welcome.
Have a good year to you all.
Keep the high balls high and the low balls low!

royalaviator 8th Jan 2005 22:05

Helllo,Steve and the rest of the Guy's

Well its a real good that you guys are getting on well, but ashamed to hear that all the proffesionals are leaving Oxford, if it was'nt for Steve Francis and Chris Perry i would have never made it through my ATPL's I wonder if you remember me..I will Give you a Clue Im from Dubai UAE, Family in the Air Force there remember me now???...Pls contact me anyway let me know how things are going!!, and advice to People reading this these Guys are the Best Beleive me im a ex student...Take Care
RA

Teroc 10th Jan 2005 09:26

Del is flying !!!...Thats it...I quit. Just when you thought it was safe to take to the skies !!

Cant wait for the "Dells dopey diagrams guide to passing your PPL" ;)

African Drunk 21st Jan 2005 17:58

And they are rumored to be losing two more.

I think management should be getting worried at this rate they will have none left in six months.


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